Talk:First Catilinarian conspiracy/GA1

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Reviewer: Iazyges (talk · contribs) 21:05, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria

• No DAB links Y
• No dead links Y
• No missing citations Y

Discussion

• You might consider adding some small pictures of involved parties such as Catiline and Cicero, but it's not necessary for good article quality.

If you have any – even vaguely contemporaneous – ideas for Catiline, I'd be happy to hear them. Ifly6 (talk) 22:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prose Suggestions

Please note that almost all of these are suggestions, and can be implemented or ignored at your discretion. Any changes I deem necessary for the article to pass GA standards I will bold.

Lede

• The so-called first Catilinarian conspiracy was a fictitious conspiracy which while the article basically lays out the conspiracy is very likely fictitious, it seems a bit off to label it directly as so in the beginning only to elaborate that some view it is possible, however unlikely; suggest qualifying it with probably or almost certainly.

Y Ifly6 (talk) 22:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• in some tellings, Catline is nowhere mentioned suggest in some tellings, Catline is not mentioned for ease of reading.

• Autronius and Sulla had been elected consuls for 65 BC but were removed after convictions for bribery. New consuls were then elected. The supposed goal of the conspiracy was to murder the second set of consuls elected for 65 BC and, in their resulting absence, replace them. suggest linking this together more, perhaps The supposed motivation for the conspiracy was that Autronius and Sulla, who had been elected consuls for 65 BC, were removed after convictions for bribery. After new consults were elected, the conspiracy was allegedly formed to murder this second set of consuls and replace them.

Ancient accounts

• Publius Autronius Paetus and Publius Cornelius Sulla, followed by the results' invalidation. suggest Publius Autronius Paetus and Publius Cornelius Sulla, followed by the invalidation of the results. for simplicity.

Y Ifly6 (talk) 22:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Accounts

• His description then includes a further conspiracy to murder plerosque senatores suggest providing the literal translation of plerosque senatores here, such as His description then includes a further conspiracy to murder plerosque senatores (lit. many senators)

Y Just omitted the Latin and translated it. Ifly6 (talk) 22:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Aftermath

• the senate voted bodyguards for the consuls and the establishment of an inquiry (the inquiry, however, was vetoed by a tribune) suggest the senate voted to provide bodyguards for the consuls and to establish an inquiry; the inquiry, however, was vetoed by a tribune. for easy of readability.

Y Ifly6 (talk) 22:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• @Ifly6: A neat little article on a niche topic, well done. I've left some minor suggestions for readability, feel free to implement or ignore them at your leisure. Passing now. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 21:30, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Ifly6 (talk) 22:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]