Talk:Harold B. Lee Library

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Who is Harold B. Lee?

Why is there no information at all in the article about the person the library is named after? -- Rosenzweig (talk) 16:45, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

good question. I added that Harold B. Lee was the 11th president of the LDS Church, and wikilinked his name for people who want to know more. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:24, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Restricted section

A while back there was some curiosity about the library's restricted section. The Daily Universe recently wrote a piece on the library's locked case room and how the library only checks out R-rated movies to faculty. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Name change?

The Harold B. Lee Library would love to make things easier for everyone and rebrand as the BYU Library. Would it be possible to change the name of this page to "Brigham Young University Library"? I think that it would keep with the spirit of the article titles policy to use the more recognizable name. But would a name change require finding a few news articles that say "BYU Library" rather than "Harold B. Lee Library"? Would it help to include a line in the official library "About us" section that another name of the Harold B. Lee Library is the BYU Library? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 22:13, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a redirect is the easiest way.
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Just doing a search on "BYU Library", I'm easily able to find references in newspapers as far back as 1927 using this name. I think I can make a good case for the name change, so I will make a move request. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:26, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 June 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 21:39, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]


MaterialWorks 11:46, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose per
BYU Library solves the issue just fine. WPscatter t/c 21:04, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Hi
WP:COMMONNAME, I believe that "BYU Library" is actually the more common "natural language word or expression" people use for the library. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Ngrams, Google Trends, Google News results, and regular Google results all point to the official name being more common. Common usage may be shifting, but until that shift is reflected concretely in a manner we can verify, the article title cannot be changed. WPscatter t/c 18:33, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Revised: My support was largely based on preference for the descriptiveness (recognizability) and concision of BYU Library, plus a brief check that is genuinely used as a proper name for the main library (including with a look at branding online and use by others, and how it is used in distinction from, say, the BYU Law Library). That is, I think it better fits the five criteria and is a (more) "commonly recognizable name[]", even if it is not the most common name in published reliable sources. However, I recognize that very heavy weight is given to
WP:COMMONNAME, even as Harold B. Lee Library seems less recognizable, natural, and concise. {{replyto|SilverLocust}} (talk) 11:13, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Relisting comment: Relisting to get further consensus. –
MaterialWorks 11:46, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.