Talk:Harvard Extension School

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Good articleHarvard Extension School has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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Student Association

To mention Student Association is not trivia, it's a fact. A whole lot of other articles have explicitly stated it with references - Harvard College (see Student organizations), Yale College (Student organizations). What are these? How is it there are two set of rules for two different articles? These double standards should stop and one set of rules should be applied to all. This shows nothing but bias. The Harvard Extension Student Association (HESA) has five different societies:[1] HES Psychological Student Society,[2] HES Creative Writing & Literature Student Society, HES Industrial Organizational Psychology Student Society,[3] HES Global Development Practice Student Society, and HES Veteran Student Society. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.171.16.184 (talk) 17:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While I would remind anon to
WP:AGF, I tend to agree with her. There is a whole article on List of Harvard College undergraduate organizations. I don't think a paragraph here is undue. --Slugger O'Toole (talk) 18:11, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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That does not make it DUE for this page. SPECIFICO talk 18:19, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Other articles may also have
undue
information and that has little bearing on this article. I also think that it might be a bad idea to look to articles about Ivy League universities as role models - there is more written about those universities than most universities making it very problematic to try to compare other articles to theirs.
That the institution has student organizations is not noteworthy. We need secondary sources to support the assertion that these specific student organizations are noteworthy. Or at least some kind of credible attempt to tell readers and editors why those specific organizations are so important that they merit inclusion in an encyclopedia article that is attempting to summarize the entire history, organization, resources, accomplishments, and challenges of this school. ElKevbo (talk) 01:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Who decides what is
undue and not noteworthy. Have you guys read other Wikipedia articles? If you go to University of Oxford, there is a section on "Student life" - and sub-sections called Traditions, Clubs and societies and also Student union and common rooms. Why are this useless information there as well? Same way, if you go to University of Cambridge, there is a section called "Societies". As I said before, how is it there are two set of rules for two different articles? These double standards should stop and one set of rules should be applied to all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.171.16.184 (talk) 06:04, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Notability policies are for articles, not content. Also, it seems to me that a single sentence about student clubs is exactly why
WP:ABOUTSELF was written. This content meets all five of those requirements and is a textbook example of times we can use a primary source. -- Slugger O'Toole (talk) 14:32, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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References

  1. ^ "The HESA Societies". Harvard Extension Student Association. Retrieved 2023-08-01.
  2. ^ "HES Psychological Student Society". Harvard Extension Student Association. Retrieved 2023-08-01.
  3. ^ "HES Industrial Organizational Psychology Student Society". Harvard Extension Student Association. Retrieved 2023-08-01.

Proposal not accepted

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named as an RS. I will revert one more time however, now that it the point is clear on talk. --Slugger O'Toole (talk) 20:10, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The Harvard Crimson article was about the proposal to rename the extension school, but the assertion about the proposal being rejected was sourced to the message board.
User-generated sites like message boards are generally not accepted as reliable sources.
The Crimson also has this follow-up article from March 2010 about the renaming proposal, but it doesn't explicitly support the assertion about the proposal being rejected. Arbor to SJ (talk) 21:20, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]