Talk:Hilary Duff/GA2

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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 08:27, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • I will get to this soon.--
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The much-discussed
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You seem to have responded to all other concerns. I will now do an independent review.--
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WP:LEAD
Question? Uncertain of what you mean. Stephenjamesx (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
actress, singer, entrepreneur, author and humanitarian is what I would say.--
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checkY Done Stephenjamesx (talk) 00:06, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd clarify studio album and compilation album for the two platinums.--
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checkY Done Stephenjamesx (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Those art terms I would link on first use.--
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checkY Done Stephenjamesx (talk) 22:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the personal section is the only section not represented in the LEAD. Her hubby is notable so mention him.--
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checkY Done Stephenjamesx (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I hate to do this, but it is not a fair reflection on her career to omit that she is a 3x Razzie award nominee.--
    WP:FOUR) 22:17, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply
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checkY Done Stephenjamesx (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is O.K. to balance this with some other popularity metrics, but I am not sure how.--
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Question? Agree, but I think the way I've worded it seems fair. Popularity measures might make it seem too superfluous. Stephenjamesx (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is she on any of those sex symbol hot 100 lists?--
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Question? Are these notable enough? Stephenjamesx (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Please add them to the article, if they exist. They belong in the public image section. Being a recognized sex symbol is an element of public image when relevant.--
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checkY Done; added much more info about this in public image. Stephenjamesx (talk) 00:06, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Are those
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Early life
☒N After doing research, the BalletMet Colombus (also known simply as BalletMet) is a touring company. I don't think explanation is needed. Stephenjamesx (talk) 16:56, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
State that they are a travelling company.--
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checkY Done Stephenjamesx (talk) 22:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
2003–06
Breakthrough film roles
  • It seems the reviews in the first 2 paras are about the films and not her.
I disagree. I think it helps understand her public image and general perception as an actress. Stephenjamesx (talk) 17:54, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You need to augment that with criticism on her performances.--
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Please see my recent edits to see if I'm going down the right lines. Do excuse me not formatting the cites. I will get to that soon. Stephenjamesx (talk) 00:50, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Whenever possible provide both the critic's name and the media in which he expressed his opinion along with the quote. Those two things allow the reader to attach his/her own weight to each comment. Also, link each notable critic on first use.--
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2007–present
Independent films and television appearances
Spell out and link LA Times and fix the bare URL.--
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2001–04
Santa Claus Lane, Metamorphosis and Hilary Duff
Deleted this sentence. It's more to do with the album's promotion than Duff's career. It is included on the Metamorphosis page. Stephenjamesx (talk) 18:03, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "number one on the US and Canadian charts" - Do these charts have links?--
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checkY Done Stephenjamesx (talk) 18:03, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't we just link it on first use (with full name) and then spell it out subsequently.--
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checkY Done Stephenjamesx (talk) 22:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
2005–08
Compilation albums and Dignity
checkY Mentioned second on this article; have not edited the discography, but will try to get on it. Stephenjamesx (talk) 16:49, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Entrepreneurship
  • Please briefly describe the books.--
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checkY Done Stephenjamesx (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Philanthropy
  • what she what she?--
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Question? Please explain Stephenjamesx (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
search for the term in the article.--
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checkY OH! Lol Done Stephenjamesx (talk) 22:10, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Images
  • It is not clear why File:Gossip309 2.jpg is necessary given all the free images. As a fair use image, it is of lower quality than almost all the free images and does not add so much given how much we can see of her without it. The role is not presented as that important a part of this article.
checkY Removed; it's unimportant.Stephenjamesx (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • All but one of the remaining images need {{
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checkY Done Stephenjamesx (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Red XN
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checkY Done Stephenjamesx (talk) 22:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

General comments: The article is well-written and pretty thorough. My main problem with the article is that the critical responses are summarized without any excerpt. We need a lot of Writer Foo of Big Time Magazine or Newspaper X said "this, that and the other" about Miss Duff. In just about every place where you say reviews were positive or negative you need to expand that with examples. Other than that please address the concerns above.

Ordinarily, I would Fail the article outright due to the extensive expansion necessary. However, in the spirit of the ongoing

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