Talk:Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2015/Archive 1

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The Netherlands

According to Eurovoix, the Netherlands have not confirmed that they will be participating in the Junior contest 2015. Click on the link (same link as belarussian participation) and scroll down. [1] — Preceding

talk • contribs
) 11:00, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

I've changed the section title, per recommendation at
T@lk
11:45, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Well then, ok. I'm sorry I did not sign my question. -_-
talk
) 12:35, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
No need to apologise, as the question was very reasonable, and it did get me thinking too so that I could post a reasonable answer in return.
T@lk
 12:48, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Italy

So, Italy will be host the Junior Eurovision Song Conest 2015 or not? They said it will announce on monday, but it is already tuesday evening. Tiitarins (talk) 15:12, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

We have no idea. We are only an online free encyclopaedia for people who wish to research stuff. We rely on
T@lk
15:27, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Italy never said they'd announce their decision on Monday. They said that discussions on whether they will host or not will begin on Monday, so we might have some time before we know a final answer. If you remember last year, it took a week or two before Malta announced they'd host. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 01:47, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Norway is unlikely to return

NRK have told me that they can not afford to pay 2 million norwegian crowns unless they win so unless the fee is reduced they will not participate. 84.213.46.153 (talk) 14:56, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but without
T@lk
15:33, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Malta

Malta will be back, according to the JESC Twitter feed link — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.78.191.173 (talk) 13:50, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

I've added this to the article. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 14:32, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
@
T@lk
 15:35, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
As I thought - see
WP:Twitter
.
  • As an external link: ☒N Generally no.
  • As a reliable source: Nota bene* Sometimes.
  • Common issues: Twitter feeds change with every post, so the desirable information you see today may be replaced by irrelevancies tomorrow. Wikipedia is
    T@lk
    15:39, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
For sourcing Twitter, we should use the {{Twitter status}} template? {{Twitter status|user|statusid|title|name|date|accessdate}} Thanks, Fort esc (talk) 15:45, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes,
T@lk
15:54, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Wesley Mouse, you don't need an account to simply read tweets. Thanks, Fort esc (talk
) 16:55, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
T@lk
17:08, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Ireland

As much information regarding Ireland is already there, JESC have confirmed they have entered talks with Ireland (presumabely TG4).link — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.78.191.173 (talk) 13:50, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

We have a more reliable source about Ireland and it is already been included in the "Active EBU Members". Until further information is released in the New Year (as stated by TG4) then nothing more can be added.
T@lk
 15:42, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Azerbaijan

Azerbaijan have stated that they are getting closer to JESC 2015 and appreciate to oppurtunity to participate. link — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.78.191.173 (talk) 13:50, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

The source sited is a blog, which wouldn't be considered reliable so it cannot be used. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 14:32, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Twitter

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T@lk
00:53, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't think so. You can't simply assume that it's the same person. And anyways, I was the one who added Malta to the article. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 01:21, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
@
T@lk
 01:27, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
  • If someone were to contact a source directly, just for their personal state of mind, then it is not a problem. But if that same person were to then use that correspondence and add it to an article citing the reply, then it not only breaks the spirit of
    T@lk
    02:02, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
I completely understand how you were just commenting, it's just that I don't think the JP is sufficient enough and in my mind it's just a coincidence. And yes, I am fully aware of the incident that happened regarding Hersi Matmuja's page and I was a part of the discussion while it was going on. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 02:27, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
@Jjj1238:, well I wasn't referring to Hersi Matmuja's page, but that is another example. The discussion I was referring to was this one back in 2011 in which a Wikipedian openly admitted to self-publishing. There was also this debate in 2012, which stated that using social media should be avoided and more reliable sources are preferable, something which was again raised here which a valid point on verifiability was raised, quoted as:
Wikipedia cannot claim somebody said something without high quality reliable sources, so I think we need to air on caution when it comes to social media claims, especially ones that a citing a question asked by a fan.
T@lk
 03:09, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Looking deeper into
T@lk
03:34, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Have the respective national broadcasters made official announcements to verify their participation? At present we are just going off a question asked on Twitter by a fan, to which the EBU have only responded to. The EBU cannot 100% outright say that a broadcaster will be there, without something from the national broadcaster to back-up the claim. Has the EBU even issued invites to all active members yet? The host country and dates are not even known. I'm still on the stance that these tweets should be removed until there is something more solid to verify these

T@lk
17:21, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

I'd have to agree with
WP:EURO would be good too. Sims2aholic8 (Michael) (talk
) 17:46, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Moving them to the other countries would be reasonable enough, especially when we are able to state that "despite the EBU's opinion, the X broadcaster has yet to make an official announcement regarding their 2015 participation". Covers all bases, and keeps us in-line with policy. A consensus debate regarding Twitter over at
T@lk
17:54, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
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