Talk:Londinium/Archive 1

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I think this should be moved to

Medieval London etc and it would be more consistant. Secondly, Londinium was re-named as Augusta at some point in the 3rd century. Any thoughts? G-Man * 19:31, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Old English version of the name which has been used since that time. Londinium is also archaeological, where as the others are historical. Walgamanus 08:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
But if we're going to have articles on
Lundenburgh and all of the other historical variants of the name London. G-Man * 21:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that is a bit contradictory. However,
Lundenwic should have its own article because it was a separate development in what is now Westminster. It's is a fine line. Walgamanus 22:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Seem as this discussion wasn't really going anywhere I've decided to be bold and move it anyway. I've created an article on Anglo-Saxon London and intend to create further periodised articles. G-Man * 22:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Where is it?

I think somewhere near the beginning of this article someone should specify where the boundaries of Roman London are thought to be. Haonhien (talk) 18:00, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, the request for maps should help... Allens (talk) 19:22, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Pre-Celtic Old European?

From the article:

Another theory which does not have widespread acceptance, proposed by Richard Coates, suggests that the name derives from pre-Celtic Old European — Plowonida — from two roots, plew and nejd, meaning something like "the flowing river" or "the wide flowing river".

Can someone please explain this? What on earth is "pre-Celtic Old European"? Does this refer to a non-Indo-European European language (e.g. Old European hydronymy)? If so, how can he provide this etymology, given that we know next to nothing about these languages? --Saforrest 17:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I was just about to post the same question, when I saw I was beaten to it. To my best knowledge "Old European" is a hypothetical concept. The dictionary, unfortunately, got lost in the mail, and now we know nothing about it. The assertion in the article has to be wrong. Aviad2001 (talk) 21:38, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
I've now given a better reference for Coates' article and a better description of the Old European hydronym, which was perhaps too hastily deleted by someone who didn't "like" it..--Wetman (talk) 03:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification and improvement in the article; I would like, though, to point out that my deletion cannot really be referred to as "hasty" - you'd notice it took me nine whole months. Aviad2001 (talk) 11:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

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Contradiction

I've just added the {{contradict}} dab to this article, because in the first section the article states that Londinium was not a military camp, but rather a private settlement, and in the next section, exactly the opposite is stated. Neither claim is referenced. 77.99.178.80 (talk) 11:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

There is not really a contradiction. At the beginning:
Londinium was established as a town by the Romans after the invasion of AD 43 led by the Roman Emperor Claudius. Archaeologists now believe that Londinium was founded as a civilian settlement or civitas by AD 50.
while the military camp relates to the move of the capital of Roman Britain to London, some decades later -- Udimu (talk) 13:43, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I also do not see contradiction, and as I think seven months are enough, I am going to take the "contradict" thingie. Leirus (talk) 16:21, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

this article desperately needs maps

It seems extraordinary that there are no maps of any sort in this article. The reader is given no idea of the location or extent of anything, except that they are somewhere in London. The article needs a map - or two. They don't need to be complex maps. In fact the simpler they are the better.

The article needs one map showing the limits of modern and Roman London. It then needs a second map with points marking the locations of the places mentioned in the article in relation to the limits of Roman London.

If someone could provide the appropriate coordinates, perhaps someone else could make the maps. Given the right information I could make the maps.

Cricobr (talk) 12:14, 29 December 2009 (UTC)