Talk:Mark Isaacs/Archive 1

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This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Some or all of the changes weren't supported by neutral, independent, reliable sources. Consider re-submitting with content based on media, books and scholarly works.

• What I think should be changed:

1. Add a sentence to the section "Lifeline Australia" prior to the existing in-line citation, paraphrasing further relevant material as found at cited source.
2. This section "Lifeline Australia" should be Heading 2. It is NOT a subsection of "(Heading 2) Awards and Nominations" and does not belong under that heading as a Heading 3.

Suggested additional sentence (shown in italics here) is:

Beginning in 2015, Isaacs has been a volunteer telephone counsellor at

Lifeline Australia

, the nationwide crisis support and suicide prevention service. This work has given him more understanding in the area of mental health, particularly in relation to its impacts on artists.<Keep existing article's named reference>

• Why it should be changed:

Rather than a plain mention as per a CV, the additional suggested material, as paraphrased from the cited source, underlines the notability of this subject area, supporting its inclusion in BLP

• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

As per section's existing named reference which points to https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/for-mark-isaacs-all-that-matters-is-the-music-20180110-h0g3dk.html Walton22 (talk) 05:09, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Declined. This is partly about the vaguely promotional tone of the changes, but primarily it's that the source (in interview with an arts editor) isn't suitable for a assertion about the subject's level of understanding about mental health. Better for us to keep it as a simple assertion of what he did, rather than speculate on what he learned. Girth Summit _(blether) 13:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, that's a helpful summary which explains the reasoning it was declined and aids in understanding further Wikipedia's requirements in sourcing. Walton22 (talk) 19:14, 17 February 2023 (UTC)