Talk:Mir (disambiguation)

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I really don't know how you, Tedernst, decide what is worthy of inclusion. I'm fairly new to Wikipedia, so maybe you can teach me something about policies. Are you saying that there must already be an article in existence on something in order for something to be included on a disamibiguation page?

Tedernst | talk 07:04, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply

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Thanks, that was a good page—I've bookmarked it. Appreciate the guidance. Unschool 12:32, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'd be happy to write the article. But not tonight. The redlink will have to do for now. Unschool 03:58, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be standards of worthiness. I'll be the first to admit that I question much of what I see included in Wikipedia. I'm just asking how such standards are determined. Unschool 04:00, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I had difficulties to find the right article on

I realize that there are in fact countless policies and guidelines on Wikipedia and it's a near impossible task to keep up with them. I sympathize with that. It doesn't mean that we should ignore the guidelines though. I've linked

MOS:DABCOMMON. -- Fyrael (talk) 07:09, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply

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Obshchina is an unknown concept, compared to mir (social) or mir (commune). Someone probably chose for obshchina to avoid disambiguation. The problem lies there in my point of view. Besides, quite a few articles on this page have information on the meaning of the Russian word mir. To some people that seemed important. You seem to think a link to dictionary is enough. People do not need to know what it means in Russian and why the Mir concept is used so often. Not very informative. I have seldon seen such strange subsections as See also, Fiction and Other uses on a DAB-page. A clear sign that there is something wrong. The subsection Fiction with vague links seem more important than a famous Russian word which really explains what is going on. Quantity seems more important than quality.Taksen (talk) 03:09, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what disambiguation pages you're looking at, but I would estimate that 90% of them have both "See also" and "Other uses" sections. There is nothing at all wrong with those. If there is a general concept that is known as "Mir" in Russian and you think is worthy of its own article, then there is nothing stopping you from writing that article, and we'd be happy to have it added to the encyclopedia. Just don't write it here on a disambiguation page. You need to start a new article for that. -- Fyrael (talk) 02:02, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think maybe there's still an issue here about not understanding the difference between an article and a disambiguation page, and maybe I should have started with linking

WP:DISAMBIGUATION. The short version is that this page is just meant as a navigational guide to get readers to another page they were looking for that happens to be called "Mir". This page itself is not meant to explain any concepts. -- Fyrael (talk) 02:06, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply

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This page itself is not meant to explain any concepts seems Nonsense to me. Taksen (talk) 03:05, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can think whatever you like about it, but that is the truth of disambiguation pages. From the top of one of the two pages I've linked you, "Note that even though disambiguation pages are kept in the Main/Article namespace (aka mainspace), they are not articles. These pages are aids in searching for articles. The style guidelines on this page aim to give disambiguation pages a consistent appearance and help the efficiency of searches by excluding extraneous information. Any page containing one of the disambiguation templates should contain only disambiguation content". Is that not very clear? Again, if there's a concept called "Mir" that you believe isn't covered here, go ahead and create a new article for it. I am not discouraging you from writing about that, just not on this page because that's not its purpose. -- Fyrael (talk) 06:25, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]