Talk:Orcinus meyeri/GA1

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Reviewer: Ceranthor (talk · contribs) 18:55, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. ceranthor 18:55, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

bear in mind, even though this species was first described in 1873, hardly anything has been written about it   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  04:27, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

whenever you're ready   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:30, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Dunkleosteus77 Has anybody disputed the status of this name since 1904? The placement with Delphinus does not seem to be mentioned outside of this article. The lede might be reworded, to avoid it sounding like it was swimming around in Germany. Say what it is, a fossil, and write about the concepts attached to it, if you see what I mean. [another reviewer, cygnis insignis]

hardly anyone had said anything after Brandt. The placement into Delphinus was made in Die Säugetierfauna von Bruttelen and there’s no online record of it so you’re not gonna find it in a google search. I have looked hard, there’s nothing else out there   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  15:59, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The material described as "Delphinus acutidens n. sp." von Meyer (1859) was synonymised with Physeterula dubusi Van Beneden 1877. Odontoceti - Physeteridae "Delphinus acutidens n. sp." = Physeterula dubusi There is an article Physeterula, which states the genus is monotypic, and other material, from Europe and South Carolina is attributed to the same taxon. cygnis insignis 16:26, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like Abel 1905 said they're possibly synonyms :/   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  18:41, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We should get someone to confirm what we found, but it seems that merging to that article might get this in order. Is that the way you read it? cygnis insignis 18:46, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It said "O. meyeri?" with a question mark which is shorthand for "maybe but maybe not"   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  19:35, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dunkleosteus77, I'm lost, who said that? cygnis insignis 04:53, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Abel 1905, in the list of synonyms he gives for Physeterula dubusi, he writes "Orca Meyeri? — J. F. Brandt" so he's not entirely sure if O. meyeri is a synonym of Physeterula, I assume because he's unsure if O. meyeri is a synonym of D. acutidens   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  05:04, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• †Physeterula dubusi Van Beneden 1877 (sperm whale) paleobiodb.org

Full reference: P. J. Van Beneden. 1877. Note sur un Cachalot nain du crag d'Anvers, Physeterula dubussi. Bulletins de L'académie Royal des Sciences, des Lettres et des Beaux-Arts 64:851-856

Belongs to Physeterula according to J. Velez-Juarbe et al. 2015

Synonyms: Beluga acutidens von Meyer 1859, Delphinus acutidens von Meyer 1859, Orcopsis acutidens von Meyer 1859

See also: Abel 1905, Brandt 1873, Cope 1890, Kazár 2002, […,] Uhen et al. 2008, […] and von Meyer 1859

@Dunkleosteus77: Please ask someone to have a look and see if they agree, this content is in the wrong place. cygnis insignis 08:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay here. I will post comments ASAP! ceranthor 03:21, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

Taxonomy

• "The whale was first described in 1859" - probably a nitpick since it makes sense in context, but is there a way to clarify that you're talking about orcinus meyeri and not just "the whale" in a nonspecific sense?
• "and there is room for debate on the matter." - probably better to avoid idioms like "room for debate" unless they're in a quote

Description

• " around 8 cm (3.1 in) in height" - Not a fan of "around" when it's substituted for "about"; why not just use "about" here?
• Killer whale is linked here, though it's already linked in taxonomy

Paleoecology

• What does lineage mean here exactly?
• "may have fished up the food chain" - "fished up?" What does this mean?
• "around 17 million years ago (mya)" - same note with "around" vs. "about"

@Dunkleosteus77: Not sure you saw this, so giving you a ping. ceranthor 22:03, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Dunkleosteus77: Want to give you another chance to reply before I have to fail this for lack of activity. ceranthor 17:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

• Are refs 4 and 5 in different languages? If so, they aren't labeled as such
• What makes Killer-Whale.org a reliable source?

Otherwise, this is in decent shape. I also agree with Cygnis's comments above. ceranthor 03:39, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Failing this for inactivity. Encourage Dunkleostus to renominate once they become active once more. ceranthor 00:59, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]