Talk:Smoking on My Ex Pack

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There is a very confusing section in the introduction.

> Before SOS, SZA had been known as an R&B artist who made "sad girl" music, a narrative she wanted to dispel because she viewed it as reductive. She found the R&B categorization in particular racially insensitive. As such, she wanted to experiment with "aggressive" hip hop music for SOS, leading to the conception of "Smoking on My Ex Pack".

She finds being categorized as an R&B artist as racist, so now she wants to make more rap/Hip hop music. But rap/Hip hop is also stereotypically black music. So how does any of that make sense? Am I missing something? - Rooiratel (talk) 07:47, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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> Black music doesn't have to just be R&B [...] Why can't we just be expansive and not reductive?

I still don't get it. Who's saying that black music is just R&B? Reading through African-American_music there are many genres and sub-genres. And nowhere does it say that it is typical to only stick to one genre only.

But I realize that my confusion lies with her weird opinion, and not with the actual editing/wording of the article. - Rooiratel (talk) 08:22, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I did read the cited sources, but didn't find them helpful. I guess my problem is that I have not listened to a lot of her music, so I wouldn't know if it did already span multiple genres before her latest album. If that was the case, then I guess it makes more sense. I'll dig in to it for my own interest's sake. But anyway, thanks for making the article clearer. - Rooiratel (talk) 09:04, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is the external link section really necessary? The only thing linked in it is the lyric video of the song which is already linked in the infobox. 2001:2020:319:7C8A:65E3:D5B5:1DD0:63C2 (talk) 10:22, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch.

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Perhaps somebody could explain in this article what the title of this song actually means? Because it's complete jibberish to me and I would hazard to guess that I'm not the only reader for whom that is true. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 23:23, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Your Power: Thanks for explaining that to me. Yes, you are right, you can deduce it from the text if you read the entire article, but not if you just skim the introduction. Personally, I would put it in without a source and put up a ^{[source needed]} reference. Knowing what the title means seems to me a rather important element of an article about a song. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 01:20, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply

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I would advise against doing that. Because then the article would stop being up to FA standards.

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I agree that this article needs some explanation of the song title. After reading the entire article and devoting some effort to parsing the phrase, I understand it to mean "[this song is a demonstration of] me engaging in the process of figuratively killing [by means of my polemic] members of a group of people which is made up of my former romantic interests". Academic publications are rife with analysis by experts who identify and explain dialect such as this—it would be easy to find a key in some reliable source. Visitors to this online encyclopedia ought to find here an exegesis of this quizzical conceit. —catsmoke ^talk 08:44, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No need to be facetious, @

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