Talk:Togodumnus

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This article needs to be re-worked in light of the info in Tiberius Claudius Cogidubnus. Both need to be merged. I'll undertake to do this when the dust settles in Caratacus.

They should not be merged. As I have explained on the Caratacus talk page, they're not the same person. --Nicknack009 02:06, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And I have explained in the discussion page for Tiberius_Claudius_Cogidubnus, and in your Wiki User page why they should

-- WikiRat 18:18, 19 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I found someone who has written on this topic, someone that agrees it is likely Togodumnus and Cogidubnus are one and the same person. Professor Barry Cunliffe's book on Fishbourne Roman Palace argues that the two were one and the same. He is considered a credible expert by most. Here is a review of his book. I mentioned Barry earlier. Given that this idea isn't something I made up since there is at least one scholars who agrees, can you guys agree perhaps that a review of this article is necessary is necessary?. WikiRat 17:37, 3 November 2005 (EST)

Is that better? --Nicknack009 18:16, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have rewritten and re-sourced the arguments about Dio's Togodumus possibly being Tacitus' C/Togidubnus. It is not possible, whatever Miles Russell says, to argue that Dio can be interpreted as reading something other than what he actually says. Dio clearly says that Plautius defeated Caratacus, then Togodumnus, and both of them fled (60.20), and that Togodumnus died shortly after that battle on the Thames, leading to a desire on the part of the British to avenge his death (60.21). To say this can actually be read as saying that Togodumnus did not die and in fact changed sides is absurd. It is only possible to argue, as David Mattingly and John Hind do, that what Dio wrote was mistaken. I have therefore, after discussion on The Classical Greece and Rome Wikiproject, reined in the wild overstatement and cited respectable scholarly sources in support of my rewrite. --Nicknack009 (talk) 21:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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