Talk:Visalia

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a

requested move

. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Jafeluv (talk) 12:17, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Why? US naming convention is to have the city at
  Visalia should therefore be the disambiguation page, as it is at present. Can see no possible reason given why we should change that. It appears that this is simply an attempt to bypass the disambiguation page for anyone searching "Visalia", but no indication is given why that is desirable. Skinsmoke (talk) 11:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply
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The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 21:14, 8 March 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

This is not a request to move "Visalia,_California" to "Visalia", as seems to have been the misunderstanding in the previous request response. This is a request to have "Visalia" automatically redirect to "Visalia,_California", and to have the disambiguation information at "Visalia_(disambiguation)", as per usual wikipedia procedure for a prominent page with many orders of magnitude more traffic than other pages on its disambiguation page.

If whoever is keeping this from redirecting to "Visalia,_California" will not allow the natural change, at the very least "Visalia" should redirect to "Visalia_(disambiguation)" and not the other way round, as disambiguation information is regularly organized in the manner of "_(disambiguation)".

PLEASE change this redirect. It has been broken too long.

Apologies for my repetitive and redundant writing, here. I do not wish to be misunderstood. Apologies if I haven't filled out the proper request... I couldn't figure out the multi-form for this specific necessity. 99.100.208.35 (talk) 19:15, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. See
  WP:USPLACE. It is the naming convention of Wikipedia to only use city names that are in the AP handbook, and all others use, City, State. "The cities listed by the AP are Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Honolulu, Houston, Indianapolis, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, New Orleans, New York City, Oklahoma City, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Salt Lake City, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle and Washington." Apteva (talk) 02:39, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • My mistake. I thought it was to move Visalia (the city) to Visalia. Having Visalia redirect to Visalia, California is fine. Apteva (talk) 00:15, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rebuttal: Once again, there has been a misunderstanding. This is not a request to move

• Strong support for move and redirect as proposed. Clear primary topic, of which all other extant topics are subordinate. bd2412 T 15:32, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment shouldn't "Visalia" redirect to "Greater Visalia"? Much as how people refer to cities but mean the metropolitan areas... -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 21:40, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • In either case Visalia needs to be moved to Visalia (disambiguation). In this case I would guess that the city is more common than the other two. Just for giggles, greater V. has been viewed 71 times in the last 90 days, downtown V. 458, and the city 33,391 times... Apteva (talk) 00:15, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • I absolutely agree, Apteva. Original poster of this second request, here; was having trouble signing-in before. I'm a Visalian who has been a contributor to some of these articles, and Visalia is generally not known by its "metropolis" or "greater" designations. The large metropolitan statistical area, although a governmental designation, is just that and nothing more; it includes the entirety of Tulare County, an expansive agricultural and High Sierra wilderness. "Visalia" should redirect to "Visalia,_California", as the traffic numbers suggest. BrainTrustInc (talk) 12:24, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.