User:Balloonman/CSD Survey/1.8

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Original Article

Uglau

Uglau is the german word for "telephone". It comes from the latin root of Ugangiau, which means communication device. The word Uglau originated when the german scientist, created the first telephone in 1872. As he was creating th telephone he had his latin dictionary open to page .734 which on it was the word "Uagangiau". He took this as a sign and then created the telephone. After this he named the telephone Uglau, which was changed into telephone, which in latin means "word transmition" [1] [2] [3] [4]

Nomination Criteria

g1 Patent nonsense. Pages consisting purely of incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content or history. This does not include poor writing, partisan screeds, obscene remarks, vandalism, fictional material, material not in English, poorly translated material, implausible theories, or hoaxes; some of these, however, may be deleted as vandalism in blatant cases.

PATENT NONSENSE is defined as: Total nonsense, i.e., text or random characters that have no assignable meaning at all. This includes sequences such as "sdfgdsfkgdshgdkhgdsklhsklgroflmaolololol;;;'dsfgdfg", in which keys of the keyboard have been pressed with no regard for what is typed. Content that, while apparently meaningful after a fashion, is so completely and irredeemably confused that no reasonable person can be expected to make any sense of it whatsoever.

Deletion Options

Deletion Option
rationale Count Percent
Agree with rationale to speedy delete. 5 5.6
Disagree with rationale. While it is a hoax, G1 explitictly excludes Hoaxes and it doesn't fit definition of Patent nonsense, but deletable by other criteria. 45 50.6
Disagree with rationale. While it is a hoax, G1 explitictly excludes Hoaxes and it doesn't fit definition of Patent nonsense, but this is a case where IAR applies. 14 15.7
Disagree with speedy deletion (should be PRODDED, sent to AFD, or kept.) 25 28.1

Survey Comments

Deletion Option
Common rationale Count
g3 3
  • To be perfectly honest, this is probably not technically deletable under any of the CSD. But I would still delete it, probably under G3.
  • Speedy delete. All other options are bureaucratic fiddle-faddle.
  • Should be speedy deleted under G3, vandalism, assuming there is no better version in page history
  • Hoaxes should be AfD'ed. Although if verified, it may get sent to Wikitionary
  • I would say this would classify as G3 for being vandalism ("blatant and obvious misinformation").
  • G3 vandalism also excludes hoaxes, but if the hoax is proven (A.B. Bell made the first phone), removing it instantly is rather uncontroversial.
  • No actual speedy criteria for hoaxes at this time; no harm in holding a discussion just in case there's something salvagable.
  • Delete as G3 vandalism. He can't have found that information in an actual German dictionary, so this is 'Blatant and obvious misinformation'
  • I would love to have a speedy criteria for hoaxes, but there currently is none.
  • dicdef. Either to Wiktionary if true, or deleted by PROD
  • Deleting with the deletion summary "Obvious hoax" would probably be fine. If questioned on it, a DRV would probably be closed confirming the delete, using the snowball clause … so IAR is worthwhile.
  • Yes, G1 excludes hoaxes, but this is so patently WP:BOLLOCKS as to be speediable as G3
  • This is not a blatant Hoax. AfD would be the best option here.
  • it is not even atthe status of an hoax.
  • G3/obvious-hoax-vandalism *may* apply. It may NOT be a "blatant and obvious" hoax, at least 1 minute of research should be done before labeling it as a blatant and obvious hoax. It may qualify as a notable example of revisionist history, alongside articles about not landing on moon, Holocaust denial, etc.
  • Has meaningful content. An obvious hoax, so should be deleted as vandalism.
  • Hoaxes aren'tspeediable under G1, but they are under G3 (blatant and obvious misinformation).
  • Blatant misinformation (it's "telefon"), so G3.
  • prod it - rationale - either hoax or dicdef

Balloonman's analysis

Er, this is a clear case of vandalism. First, none of the links actually work. Second, searches for the words "Uagangiau" and "Uglau" produce zero hits. Third, if there was a German scientist who was claiming to invent the telephone before Alexander Graham Bell, the scientist would be named. Finally, Uglau is not the German word for Telephone--- or auf Deutsch, "telefon." A little research and it would have been obvious that this should be deleted as G3 vandalism.