User:TenPoundHammer/Archive 10

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BOZ

Nice name. Are you any relation to this guy? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 23:54, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

No sir, but thanks for asking all the same.  :) BOZ (talk) 04:35, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Response

I know not all charted songs are article worthy. I just thought that this one may have been noteworthy because it's gotten airplay, been charted, and has been played on MTV (please... don't ask me how I know the latter). :) phoenixMourning ( talk/contribs ) 18:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, I wouldn't either. I only know it gets played on MTV because basically every charted song does. Minus the actual good ones. phoenixMourning ( talk/contribs ) 20:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Wynonna

Hey - I'm looking at the usual references to her, and see it's quite a mix out there. She's listed as Wynonna Judd on places like Amazon, etc., and in some press releases on her own site - but in other spots, yeah, she's referred to in the singular. Let me poke around a little more, and I'll leave a note on the talk page with some observations. (Of course, I remember when the Judds were really big way back when, so I always think of her specifically as Wynonna Judd, myself. =) ) Tony Fox (arf!) 19:42, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

You win! *g* Yeah, if her solo work is all credited to the single name, then I'd agree it should probably be moved to that. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Indie-electro

Hey, well thanks...I'm really sorry if I caused any trouble...the thing is that I am still a n00b around wikipedia and didn't know how to handle a second nomination. Sorry for anu inconveniences and thanks a lot for fixing it! Cheers. The-15th (talk) 20:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/José Fidalgo

The article that was originally at

Jose Fidalgo back to José Fidalgo (as I noted in the closing remark of the AfD). ... discospinster talk
03:00, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Judging from this edit summary, I think he figured it out! ... discospinster talk 03:05, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Andeggs

Hiya - looks like the block was declined, as another account claimed the same. I'm guessing they were sleepers? My regards to the otters, by the way. GBT/C 06:23, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the tip

Afd helpline

Thanks for the tip on my first afd. Slghtly more complicated than I expected. If you have a chance, take a look at my new attempt and advise if it is still messed up.--Smokefoot (talk) 18:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Thank you for your comments on my RFA. Even though it failed with 28 supports, 42 opposes, and 15 neutrals, I am grateful for the suggestions and advice I have received and I do hope to improve as a Wikipedian. If you ever need my help in any endeavor, feel free to drop me a line. --Sharkface217 19:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Scottish Mob

Thanks, you work quickly. I wish I had just tagged it for speedy deletion, it would have been a lot quicker. Cheers! ---

The'FortyFive'
21:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Disney stuff....

Hi TPH. Yeah, just saw this. I won't be on Wiki that often this week - actually I marked those hoaxes via a mobile phone (modern technology is cool :O)) - but take a look at the reverts I made in the last hour or two on various Disney and film related articles, which you might want to keep an eye on. FlowerpotmaN·(t) 23:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

need your oppinion

Concerning

WP:POINT violations and wikilawyering due to a particular sysop who didn't like my non-inclusionist attitude and frankly I'm second guessing myself at this point and don't want another fiasco. Mister Senseless (Speak - Contributions
) 00:09, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

RFA stuff, other stuff

Thanks again. I know that I'll improve as a Wikipedian due to this RFA. On a lighter note, you might want to look at this. --SharkfaceT/C 00:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I know that I should probably speedy this article. It's just that I'm fighting vandals with 4 tabs open right now and I was wondering if you could log it. --SharkfaceT/C 01:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

The Chain of Love

Have you ever heard this song by Clay Walker? If so, I need some help expanding the "music and structure" section. I need to put more than just the song being a "mid-tempo ballad composed in D major." So, I need some help since I don't know a thing about music. Martin4647 (talk) 21:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD log-page header

Noticed that you added a header to an AfD log page the other day: [1]. Got involved with that myself today when the bot apparently failed to make the page. Is there a template that automatically makes the header, or does one just cut and paste? Thanks, Darkspots (talk) 03:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that's what I did. Guess it worked. Darkspots (talk) 04:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/WhichWay676676

Hello TPH. Just want to let you know that the socks of WhichWay676676 are in fact part of the User:StealBoy family (which is itself probably related to the User:Lyle123 family. I've been tracking this moron for a long while now (I've stopped adding the new socks to the relevant category if only to deny him recognition, but see my log of blocks to get an idea of how tenacious he's been). The pattern is exactly the one you noticed: creation of hoax articles on children films and TV series. Dmcdevit has been assisting me by regularly performing checkusers to try and block the underlying IP range and I'd be grateful if you can let me or Dmcdevit know when you run into this guy. He's very persistent and has been creating dozens of socks a month so there are few active admins who haven't blocked one of his socks! Cheers, Pascal.Tesson (talk) 16:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Povertyneck Hillbillies

Hello, TenPoundHammer. You have new messages at Xdenizen's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

X Marx The Spot (talk) 21:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

My Bad

Hey, I am not very bright when it comes to Wikipedia codes and what-not. I blanked my

talk
) 01:33, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Note: Moved from your userpage. Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 02:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Digital Chart

The Billboard Hot Digital Songs chart goes down to #200... next time do some research please before jumping into a conclusion. [2]--76.98.64.105 (talk) 18:22, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Afd for James Bamba

Thanks for fixing that. Twinkle seems to be having problems this afternoon. BTW, do you know anything about setting up bots to archive a user talk page? Mine is getting way too big and rather than cut and paste, I want to be geeky and use a bot. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 20:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Help request

Thank you so much for disabling my help request at Template talk:GFDL-Armenica! It's so much more important to stick to the process wonkery than to actually solve problems. Kelly hi! 21:56, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

The Signpost Writer Userbox

Will you give me a link to the page you found the userbox on, please? The Piano Man (talk) 18:02, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Spiesslogo.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to

fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale
.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 20:29, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

You really need to stop talking to yourself. *g* Tony Fox (arf!) 20:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of companies of Pakistan (2nd_nomination)

mmmm - Sorry I understood form allows Afd to be undergo as many nominations today, tomorrow, next month as needed unless it is clearly disruptive behaviour. There wasn't concensus. I moved from deletion to rename. I do not think there was enough consensus for me to rename despite a complete paring of the article of NN links - the name in its current form asks for abuse. BpEps - t@lk 21:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry you've lost me:

*That's okay. If you wanted to rename it, all you had to do was make a request for pagemove. I'm assuming good faith on your part, and just giving you a friendly reminder so that others don't think you're trying to disrupt the project. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 21:27, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

How do your "reminders" Stop "others don't think you're trying to disrupt the project"? What are you some kind of soothsayer? Can't editors make up there own mid without your input. mmmmm I think I fail to understand. Talk normally and just say what you were trying to do without confusing me with protecting me from other editors ideas of what I was doing. Please. -- BpEps - t@lk 21:36, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


'Hoax' page: Tauro-Piscean Language

Hi. You tell me off, claiming that the page was a hoax page and I never intended it to be that way. It's not a hoax; it was meant to be a genuine educational page about a constructed language, which has gained some interest of others.

However, I am fine with it being deleted because it does go against 'What Wikipedia Is Not'. I advise, in future, that you refrain from confronting people as you did me. You could've just said that the page was inappropriate and I would have accepted that, but you had to go all extremist, giving me warning triangles, which is quite unpleasant.

--Pisceesumsprecan (talk) 09:55, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/In My Mind (Is A Different World - A Cheeky One)

Thanks for that. I am known to occasionally miss things (or misinterpret them). I think I've got a pretty good idea of the rules and guidelines of Wikipedia now, but I'm always happy to have my mistakes pointed out. Thanks for letting me know that I'm not going completely mad! LOL! -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 13:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Heh! I know that feeling! -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 13:07, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Stone Country

That fact alone doesn't really tip the scales one way or the other. If You're Going Through Hell has had four Number One singles, and it still doesn't even have a star rating on All Music Guide. Spell4yr (talk) 15:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Carrie Underwood discography

Hey, I see that you left comments in regards to Carrie Underwood discography. Could you clarify what you mean? Also, I don't think I was edit warring, just undoing his edit with an explaination why. Cheers. σмgнgσмg(talk) 04:12, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


Destruction Of Song Articles

I have asked you before to STOP destroying song articles. Here we go again. Your have made the misguided and subjectivly independent decision that articles on two highly recognizable hit singles by the artists George Jones and Sammy Kershaw deserve to be destroyed and merged into your own articles on the artists. This is extremely questionable that you continue to destroy song articles for the enhancement of your own artist articles. STOP. I have chosen to not make a quest out of reversing your mistakes, but when your mistakes effect song articles I have created, I am not going to standby.Wikibones (talk) 11:18, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

This is not "destruction," this is called 'collaborative editing' and is a quite valid approach to dealing with what an editor feels is a problematic edit. Stop calling it "destructive."
Having said that, Hammer, it appears there's some concern about this. I'd suggest going to
WT:MUSIC and starting a discussion about the notability of songs, because obviously there's never going to be agreement from Wikibones, as that appears. Tony Fox (arf!)
18:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Tony...thank you for your attention to the issue. With regard to my choice of the word "destructive", TenPoundHammer's complete redirect of a HIT song article into an album article totally obliterates the song article and the researchable data within that article (the writers, links to artists who have recorded it, cummulative chart data related to the song, awards the song has won, links to websites about the song, links to references, etc). Such actions by TenPoundHammer can hardly be called "collaborative editing", and cause extreme loss of researchable data. If the word "destructive" doesn't apply, I'm not sure what else to call it. It certainly isn't "collaboratve editing" when ONE person subjectively decides what is notable, ONE person subjectively decides what articles contain reasonable references, ONE person subjectively decides to delete others' work on chart HIT song articles by redirecting them to his own articles on artists. These kinds of unilateral, wildly independent decisions on deletions must be stopped. Wikibones (talk) 12:02, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Albania, Colorado

Can I ask you to remove the speedy tag? I'd like to give the creator a little bit of time to verify the existence, and I'm asked such on their talk page. I'd prefer that you remove the tag to give him time to respond. I'm aware that I could decline the speedy, but it seems more courteous to ask you to withdraw it pending some response. Thanks! - Philippe 18:21, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

User:StealBoy socks

I was going to report a bunch of these to WP:SSP, when I noticed you'd already done that. Now, two more socks showed up recently: User talk:Shortfilm676676 and User talk:Earrrrr555567. Do you think this be brought to RFCU? nneonneo talk 23:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

RFCU'd. nneonneo talk
04:14, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Before He Cheats in other charted songs

User:I7114080 is at it again, he seems pretty stubborn about this. Can you help? Sorry to drag you into this. >.< σмgнgσмg(talk) 01:53, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, it is about to escalate into an edit war. Could you be the mediator for this? Or should I find another user? Cheers. σмgнgσмg(talk) 02:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking a page protection until this calms down. What do you think? σмgнgσмg(talk) 02:13, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for your help. σмgнgσмg(talk) 02:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry, Ten Pound Hammer. I wasn't abusing it intentionally.

talk
) 03:20, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Back to the face

Thanks for heads-up. Taken care of now. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 19:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


Deletion

yea, I figured out that I did it wrong. I am trying to figure out how to do it now but am a bit confused still. (Blahblah5555 (talk) 03:15, 21 April 2008 (UTC))

Thank You

Thanks for the help. How do you make your page design like that? Elluminate (talk) 01:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

My helpme

Thanks for the assistance. I looked at the other active RfCs and got a bit concerned that I misinterpreted where my RfC should go. Erechtheus (talk) 02:18, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Non-Admin Closures

Hello. You may remember me from before. I noticed at the

talk
) 02:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I was just looking at how you closed Afd's. Is the following how it is supposed to be formatted?
I just closed one here. I'm positive that the result was delete per comment at the bottom and per
talk
) 03:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I didn't see that. Thanks.--
talk
) 03:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

sort-a-like?

Seeing you in the same places as me. We seem to think alike as well. Would love to have conversations RE:WP one one one....etc... How can we hook up for some extended convo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmedema (talkcontribs)

re: GA fails

Technically I didn't fail the articles since they weren't properly nominated in the first place; I just removed the nominations. I was in the process of leaving the user a note when you messaged, however, so now it's done. Take care, María (habla conmigo) 14:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

GA

Can you review some articles I just nominated for Good Articles? Candyo32 (talk) 15:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Candyo32 (talk) 15:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
There are different pages because
J.R. Chandler and Babe Carey is the Supercouple page. Candyo32 (talk
) 16:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

System 6 GA

Thanks for the feedback. I was unsure about submitting it to GA so soon. I am going to add a 'User interface' sub-section under 'Main features' and also a section about desk accessories/control panel and the DA/Font Mover. I had not heard of MacroMaker before, but when I researched System 6 to cite this article, I found it mentioned quite a lot strangely. What is the best way to add citations to a table (I think adding a ref for each version number would be overcrowding, since all that data came from the same place.) —

talk
) 17:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello again. I've made quite a few changes (and I have added a Compatibility chart, which I'm quite proud of). I think there is still some information to add, but I would like some more feedback. Thanks! —
talk
) 19:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
And your reply was very fast. :-) This article is quite easy to work on, since there isn't a lot to say. If I was doing the
talk
) 20:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I have listed it on the GA nominations page again. —
talk
) 15:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Favor

I was wondering if you could again look over

Comedy rap. I've prodded it once but it was removed because an editor asserts that there is notability through Google News. I still can't tell if the page was inherently notable. If you find that it isn't, I was wondering if you'd tag it for deletion for me, as I am currently on vacation. Thanks a ton. --SharkfaceT/C
05:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I've needed a second opinion on that page for a while now. --SharkfaceT/C 20:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Mr Shadow

Another borderline music article,

TALK
) 14:43, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Charles P Kindleberger III article

OK, I would acknowledge this article

Wikipedia:COI
since I know the guy and used to work for him.

However, I would submit to his notability specifically in the context of community networks and in applied statistical research. If somebody such as Michael Gurstein warrants an article, so does Mr. Kindleberger.

For example, he was part of the panel behind the book Modernizing the US Census. He has also authored or co-authored several chapters in academic works since his retirement from government service, and has long been active in the Urban and Regional Information Systems Association (URISA) and the American Statistical Association.

Anyway, not to belabor the point, but I'd like the opportunity to integrate additional references into the article in order to show notability of the individual. I realize Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a "Who's Who", yet I think this individual is sufficiently notable for inclusion.

Thanks! --Joefrank (talk) 21:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for voting in
Tucky

Belginusanl vandal

Hi, I saw your reply to User:Usaman101's claim of not knowing what the sockpuppet accusation meant. I've been watching this vandal's favorite pages for a good while now, and the vandal's pattern is very distinct. I am sure that this is simply another sockpuppet. In my experience, new users rarely know how to add images to articles properly, or how to preview pages, and as a result may often use as many as a dozen edits and still not size it properly. Not only does this user know how, he also very conveniently added some of Belginusanl's favorites (Belginusanl is notorious for his obsession with female child models, this one in particular) for his very first few edits. Even the naming pattern is telling. Compare Usaman101 with USANational, Belgieusanational, and Cyberman101, a few of his previous monikers. I understand if you must on principle assume good faith, but the case against this user leaves little doubt. --Icarus (Hi!) 00:44, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Unbelievable dab

Would I be correct in assuming that Unbelievable (disambiguation) was deleted because you tagged it for deletion after moving the dab page to Unbelievable? If this is the case, I just wanted to let you know, for future reference, that (disambiguation) pages should not be deleted when the dab is moved to the plain title. Such redirects are useful for intentionally linking to a dab page, because they let disambiguators know which incoming links don't need to be fixed. Cheers--ShelfSkewed Talk 03:58, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

You can re-create it if you want to, but at the moment nothing links to it, so there's no compelling reason to do it immediately. It can/will be re-created when somebody needs it. I just mentioned it because redirects are cheap (resource-wise) and it doesn't make sense to discard redirs that are potentially useful. Regards--ShelfSkewed Talk 04:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Reneeleash.jpg)

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VG Cats- what is fancruft?

Regarding this [3]

What would be fancruft in this article? WhisperToMe (talk) 16:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe what I'll do is remove what I think is ORish and I'll see which characters should be included and which ones should not. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Kristi Yamaoka AfD

I didn't start it this time, so that should say something. However, I'm not so sure I follow your logic on news coverage. as the sources cited in the AfD have nothing to do with her - they are, quite frankly, namedropping, so I would posit the coverage is trivial. Also, SpectralAgent does look like an SPA; no edits aside from the AFD and cursory user and talk page creation. However, said account, posted on Animate's page, having scoured the other AFDs. To me, that is not the sign of a new user. MSJapan (talk) 18:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

An editor nominating articles for GA, articles that I mostly impoved

I see that there has been an editor running around nominating soap opera articles for Good Article status. These are articles that I've greatly impoved. I would rather these articles have not been reviewed yet, though they don't seem to have been properly reviewed anyway. I feel that

talk
) 02:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh...

...excuse me for starting a new section, but the PlayStation 3 doesn't allow me as much editing freedom on Wikipedia as a computer does.

Anyway, I wanted to add that the Bianca Montgomery and Maggie Stone article is surely ready for GA, but I'm holding off for Featured Article (FA) status for that one. After a little more tweaking, it will be ready for that.

talk
) 02:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Besides my talk page, I also responded on the talk pages of the
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) 07:40, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Country Album Reviews from The 9513

Hey, I just noticed that you undid some of my edits--you removed album reviews (from The 9513) that I added to James Otto, George Strait, and Josh Gracin. The 9513 is a professional source--in fact, it's the second most widely read country music publication in the country (U.S.), and shares at least one critic with Country Weekly (which is the largest). Also, I've run it through the Albums project group.

  • Also, you yourself recently edited the song page for "Every Other Weekend" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_Other_Weekend), which contains a critical reference from the same source that you have been deleting album reviews from.
  • Another edit: I don't mean to beat this point into the ground, but when you undid one of my edits you reasoned: "(rm 9513 spam)". I'm not sure how adding a relevant, reliable album review is "spam".

Countrymusicfan (talk) 12:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Update: Thanks for the reply. No worries. I personally find it frustrating that 99% of the country albums on here only have reviews from AMG, which, in my opinion, are useless most of the time. So I've taken it upon myself to start fixing some of that, and hopefully to actually start contributing some new material.

As far as the "blog" exclusion...if you go to the album project page, this is what it says: "...(which excludes personal blogs)." I think there's a big difference between an electronic publication (speaking generally here) that calls itself a "blog" and "personal" blog, which would seemingly be the non-professional website of someone not professionally employed in the industry. In this case, the site in question certainly exceeds the standard of the "personal blog," and significantly surpasses (I think) the benchmarks set by the precedent of the current 'not allowed' review sites (again, as per the project page).

Anyhow, I appreciate the discussion and your even-headedness about this. I'm pretty new to Wiki, but everyone seems to be mostly reasonable here...which is NICE! Countrymusicfan (talk) 17:37, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Bloody Sunday

I nominate 'em as I see 'em, it's good that it has been improved and will likely be kept. I usually don't go back to old nominations, just let them run their course. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

AFDs

If theres no text its obvious I'm voting based on the argument given above. Wikipedia is not a me-too list. --Lemmey

talk
04:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Your issues have been addressed. --
talk
05:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Reply..

Hi, TenPoundHammer

I am EnglandRules1966

Thank You for listening to me here is a list of the articles deleted.




--EnglandRules1966 (talk) 14:05, 27 April 2008 (UTC)