User talk:Секретное общество

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. — Czello ^(music) 12:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's the other user who is warring. I've already filed the complaint about it. Please read the source that the user is sourcing, as it clearly says that his signing is just a rumor. If the signing is not official, nor has the wrestler debuted for said company, it doesn't belong on the given page. Секретное общество (talk) 12:40, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PWInsider has reported that he's signed[1] — Czello ^(music) 12:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't say in the article that WWE has announced it as official. If they haven't announced the signing, and if the wrestler has not debuted, that means that it's not official. Секретное общество (talk) 12:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's no obligation to wait for WWE's confirmation - independent reliable source trump primary sources — Czello ^(music) 12:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But as I said to the warring user, The source itself isn't the issue. The issue is what the source is saying, and when they're saying words such as expected and/or could, that means that it's not 100%, and that is hypothetical. Секретное общество (talk) 12:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

it even says in the headline that he's "expected" to debut

Within the article, it says:

"In an update, PWInsider reports that sources believe that Jacob Fatu could debut as soon as the April 26 episode of WWE SmackDown."

This is plain English, and I'm feeling to understand how neither of you can understand and comprehend it. Секретное общество (talk) 12:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PWInsider then reported that the former MLW World Heavyweight Champion had signed with WWE.

Pretty clear. — Czello ^(music) 12:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, now use your reading skills and read the article. Секретное общество (talk) 12:49, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did. Which part of it contradicts the quote I gave you? — Czello ^(music) 12:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I already wrote this, but he it is again:

it even says in the headline that he's "expected" to debut

Within the article, it says:

"In an update, PWInsider reports that sources believe that Jacob Fatu could debut as soon as the April 26 episode of WWE SmackDown." Секретное общество (talk) 13:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the thing... I'm not trying to "war", it's just that I've been told in the past that a wrestler needs to be officially signed.. therefore the promotion has to announce it.. or they need to debut. PWI is being hypothetical and hasn't mentioned any official word from WWE, so I don't feel that Fatu meets either criteria. PWI as a source is legit, but the working suggests hypotheticals and not fact related to anything WWE has announced. Секретное общество (talk) 13:05, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PWInsider it's not hypothetical, it's very clear Fatu signed a contract with WWE. No rumor or hypothetical.

Regardless, I'll stop editing it for now. I'll leave it up to those who will review it. Секретное общество (talk) 12:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you going to ignore all of the edits by the actual user that is warring? They are repeatingly violating

WP:CS by not matching what is said in there given source, and all I'm doing is fixing it in accordance to Wikipedia's MoS Секретное общество (talk) 12:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Wow, i have a family dinner and suddenly, this. Part by part. 1, Fatu's status with WWE has been reported by 3 sources. 1, Figure 4, 2 Fightful, 3 PWInsider. Three soruces are reliable (personally, PWInsider and Fightful are highly reliable watching their previous work and fact checking history). While 1 and 2 states that he told his family he signed with WWE, PWInsider confirms the contract. No rumor, no hypotetical, a confirmation. PWInsider, as I pointed, reported the same years ago with Eva Marie, John Morrison and Cody Rhodes. People remove them, calling PWInsider liar and rumors. Then, the wrestlers made their returns, so PWInsider has been proven as accurate. Official isn't public. Also, PWInsider reported that maybe, Fatu would made his debut on SD, something they also talked about [2] So, you pointed that a reliable source is needed, a reliable source stating that he signed with WWE. PWInsider did it, but now you say PWInsider it's just hypothetical and rumors. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 16:40, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What does the irrelevant flowery of one's family dinner have to do with any of this? And why are you fixated on the source? I've said a dozen times now that the source isn't what is in question, but rather what the source wrote. I'm not going to copy and paste the quotes from the article again. Yes, PWI said that he is signing, but if you look at what they are referencing, it's hypothetical and speculative.

I'm not going to continue to talk to a wall, and I'm going to refrain from editing either page until a decision is made on my request. Секретное общество (talk) 01:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]