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Hi Arjayay, nice to meet you! :) Do u still remember me? I was the one whom edited the concert table on the Singapore Indoor Stadium. You took A LOT of your time to explain to me the reason that I shouldn't include flags and hyperlinks in the table. You told me that me edit "looks good" in the end; do you recall that? Thank you so much for your patience back then! :D

I would like you to take a look at one of the new article that I've just created today;

. I was totally shock to see that "Propose Deletion" template on top of the page saying that my page will be deleted automatically in just 7 days. May I know how do I remove the template there and defending my reason not to remove it? I was being told by one of the editors that if I insist on adding a long list of concerts held at a music venue; then it is best that I create a separate sub-articles to focus on the topic that I wish to edit. However, it is not against the guideline to include any lists of concerts on an article page for music venue, isn't it?

I am so disgusted by the double-standardness imposed onto me by the

?

I'm so extremely anxious and panicky right now as I am very frustrated that I couldn't find a way to remove that template on top of the page. I have also left a message on the talk page of that article, please feel free to take a look at how I defended myself. Thank you so much for reading this my friend, I hope to hear some advice from you on the possible remedies to this editing disputes. :-) Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 14:07, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Xinyang Aliciabritney
As the template states "You may remove this message if you improve the article or otherwise object to deletion for any reason" - It is much better that you did not remove the template, but I have removed the template and explained why.
It is always better to start articles in your sandbox, so you can include more information and sources, and make the article semi-complete before moving it to article space. This avoids accusations such as "grossly incomplete". Your sandbov edits will still be attributed to you in the final version, provided it is moved, and not copy-pasted.
Having said that "I am sure you will expand the article", please do so, and don't forget the references!
WWGB looks at most new Australian pages, and could still nominate it under Articles for deletion, but should not re-instste the "Prod" tag I removed - Arjayay (talk) 15:24, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

What should I do if WWBG decides to nominate it for proposed deletion again? I am trying to add more reliable references to the article, u can take a look at it again to see if there is any improvements. I am also planning to add some images of artists with a brief description of it. I will obtain those images from other Wikipedia articles since the guideline stated that anyone that uploads the image will automatically grant license for others to re-share. I have also created other articles too; such as

. It is good that I have did not receive any templetes for proposed deletion but I am concerned that some other editors may put it up one day. Do u have any advice or recommendations on those new articles that I've created? As u know, I am a huge fan of music and it is within my strongest passion to update those historical events so that other music fans can use it as a historical archive for any future references. It gives me a great sense of accomplishment when I get the informations updated completely. May I know how do I use the sandbox function? I am very new to it as I hasn't really explored the many functions there. Thanks a lot my friend, u are the only editor on Wikipedia that understands my perspective. Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 15:41, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi

WP:MOVE the article to mainspace - do not copy and paste.
I usually work this way - as here where I worked on the article for 11 days before moving it to mainspace - if you look at the 6 November version it has lots of problems, but when I moved it on 17 November it was fairly complete - Arjayay (talk

) 16:12, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

I suspect that editor nominated my article for proposed deletion not because I violated the guideline but simply because he thinks that mt edits are useless in his personal opinion. He was trying to defend himself using

. Am I right to say that such a conflict is the main reason for many of the editing disputes on Wikipedia?

No, I think the nomination as "Grossly incomplete" was justified - look at the article as it was when he added the tag here just 3 years covered and 3,929 bytes long - whereas it now covers 9 years and is 13,695 bytes long - 3.5 times as long - that is the problem of starting an article in mainspace instead of a sandbox - Arjayay (talk) 16:35, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Anyway, u were the one that created the article on The Amazing ZigZag Concert? Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 16:19, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

As is shown in the history - nothing special about the article - it just shows how starting in a sandbox gives you time to work on something before others interfere - Arjayay (talk) 16:35, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Both

on his talk page that the question of usefulness can be very subjective as some editors/users will find it useful whereas other editors/users may not benefit from it. I hate to trouble you, but I felt strongly that there is a need to have a proper communication with the 2 of them over varying perspectives. I got a feeling that they are attempting to force to me to take their advice or else my page would have been deleted not because of policy violation; but my disobedience to their views/perspectives. Let me say it again, being "ignorant", "disobedient" or so-called "rebellious" doesn't mean that I disrespect them. I only disagree with their personal views and I hope they will do the same vice versa. You may wish to have a look at the message on my talk page in the meanwhile. Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 06:48, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Entertainment events at Sydney Super Dome article - removing excess citations and fleshing out your bare URLs into proper references. Since he completed that tidying up, you have added another bare URL - that is likely to annoy most editors. I suggest you thank him for his edits, and turn your recently added bare URL into a proper reference, just like WWGBs, If you need more information on references please see Help:Referencing for beginners - Arjayay (talk

) 08:01, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

May I know what is the difference between a proper reference and a bare URL? I always make it a point to check whether the URL that I added is a proper reference? Perhaps u may wish to give me a few examples of the references that I have added. Note, will drop him a thanks message on his talk page. :-) Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 08:13, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Bare URLs and read Help:Referencing for beginners

Your last addition was - <ref>http://www.weekendnotes.com/lionel-richie-john-farnham-australian-tour/</ref>

Compare that with one of WWGBs references <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.smh.com.au/news/music/beyonce-in-dazzling-debut/2007/04/22/1177180465477.html|title=Beyonce in dazzling debut - Music - Entertainment - smh.com.au|work=smh.com.au|accessdate=16 September 2016}}</ref>

A full reference needs the title, source, author (if given), access date, published date if a magazine or news item etc. etc. - all the boxes created by using the citation template - Arjayay (talk) 08:21, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

I guess it would have been much easier to use the citacion template for proper references instead of adding it manually bit by bit? I was thinking that bare URLs refers to the poor user interface of the articles that I am accessing. So to summarise what u said, I will need to provide the full URL, title of the article, credits to the author and mark the date of accessing the article; am I right?

The article on the Weekend Notes may also be added as long as I can give proper credits to the author of the article and specify the references clearly; isn't it? Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 08:53, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes, this is clearly explained in Help:Referencing for beginners - please reformat both references 13 and 16 which are still bare URLs, and please leave edit summaries for your edits. - Arjayay (talk) 09:06, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Oh I see, thanks a lot! :-) As it can be quite time consuming to provide proper references, I often try to cut down as much time as I can so that I can move on with adding new informations and references. It has become especially inconvenient for me when I am editing the article using Wikipedia app on my smartphone as it takes me at least 2 - 3 edits just to get a proper references published. On top of that. I cannot guarantee 100% reliable references for all the informations provides, as it can be rather tricky to do so. It is so much easier to add citacions more recent events (i.e. concerts happened within the last 10 years) while providing proper references to events before 2000 can pose a significant challenge for me as lesser articles keep track of those events. However, I always try to search 3 -4 pages on Google engines before I open each of those article tabs and decide which of those I wish to use. On top of that, WWGB, have stated in his edit to remove 25 overkilled references. May I know why is that so? How many references woild be acceptable while how many are deemed to be excessively overdone? Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 09:55, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Arjayay, I saw that you reverted my add. I don't think it's something more appopriate for a dictionary, maybe a stub? It's the translation of https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachilogia, what is unclear on it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uninekodo (talk • contribs) 10:56, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi

verifiable the rules on en.wikipedia are not necessarily the same as at it.wikipedia. - Arjayay (talk

) 11:12, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

I don't use automatic translation tools, maybe I used words in a way that makes more sense in my mother tongue rather than in english, so I understand that what I translated can be hard to be understood by a native speaker. Ok, I didn't know that rules vary among different Wikis, so feel free to correct or maybe even delete the page. Uninekodo —Preceding undated comment added 13:32, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

List of tourist attractions in Guntur district can be moved to List of tourist attractions in Guntur like other city articles List of tourist attractions in Hyderabad and List of tourist attractions in Mumbai? or can we create a new one for a city?--Vin09 (talk) 14:10, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Vin09

No, only the tourist attractions in Guntur itself, should be in the Guntur article, or, if there are so many that they merit a separate article a Tourist attractions in Guntur article could be created. Those attractions not in Guntur city, but in Guntur district should remain in List of tourist attractions in Guntur district.
To avoid duplication, the tourist attractions in Guntur itself can be linked in the List of tourist attractions in Guntur district article with a note like "for attractions in the city of Guntur itself see Guntur"
The only example of such a note I can find at the moment is in Azamgarh district#Notable people which states:-

The following notable people are from Azamgarh district

NB This list excludes those from Azamgarh itself which are listed in that article

Listing everything/everyone in the state/district capital article is a huge problem in Indian articles, but I don't understand why. A town or city has its town/city limits, but it sits in a mandal, which sits in a district, which sits in a division, which sits in a state. People from the actual city, therefore, live in the city, the mandal, the district and the division. This does not mean that everyone in the mandal, district, division and state live in the city - the vast majority do not.

The fact that several articles fail to make this distinction, and include them all in the capital, is not something to copy, but something to break up. - Arjayay (talk) 14:40, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--Vin09 (talk) 16:26, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

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I wonder why you believe this school included isn't verifiable. I have nieces attending this school. If you request I have a link to their website that would be fine but accusing me of vandalism is totally uncalled for. The government of Nigeria does NOT have a concise database of pre-secondary schools in Nigeria as there is no general entrance examination into those schools. But as for secondary schools (government owned) and universities there is a database for this because their is are central examination bodies responsible for conducting entrance examinations into these schools and institutions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kainamthomaswong (talk • contribs) 14:59, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kainamthomaswong

I assume you are talking about your addition of Government Secondary School, Owerri? As it clearly states, immediately above your addition:-

ONLY ADD A SCHOOL TO THIS LIST IF THEY ALREADY HAVE AN ARTICLE ON THE ENGLISH WIKIPEDIA

As shown by the fact that it is in red

write the article first. Once that article has been accepted, the school can then be added to the list. - Arjayay (talk

) 15:49, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Mass changes which include, copyvio, adding urban agglomeration data instead of the city. User:Krishnagopi06 not responding.--Vin09 (talk) 05:19, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Added to my watchlist - so far they have made no changes since your reverts - any more copyvios needs reporting - Arjayay (talk) 11:41, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Hey can you give me your email so, i can contact you on your mail ? Hermanonline (talk) 09:25, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi

should have a pre-existing article." - Arjayay (talk

) 09:44, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Revert

Revert to this revision not working.--Vin09 (talk) 12:44, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Vin09 - I'm confused what you are saying - this diff shows that there is no difference between the current version and that on 22 September, so there is nothing to revert - User:Srivarunhota added 87 bytes and then deleted them himself - or am I misunderstanding your point? - Arjayay (talk) 12:53, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Ok, got the point. I thought the user did some test edits at view history, so I wanted to revert which did not happen. So, there was no change in the page as the user deleted humself. Thanks.--Vin09 (talk) 13:22, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

May I know how can I create multiple draft articles inside my sandbox? Or it isn't possible to create more than one? I'm surprised that my edit on Radio City Music Hall has been reverted again by another editor due to "incompleteness and irrelevance". Take a look at it and try to see if you are able to revert it with any valid reasons. Thanks! Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 13:50, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi

User:Arjayay/BGO Records

rather than a number as it saves remembering which article is in which sandbox:-

1. If you type User:Xinyang Aliciabritney/sandbox3 in the search box, and hit the search button, yo will get to a page that says
   There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or create this page.
   "create this page" is in blue - click on that and start typing.
2. Type [[User:Xinyang Aliciabritney/sandbox3]] on your existing sandbox page - preview the page which will make it show as User:Xinyang Aliciabritney/sandbox3, click on the redlink, which will take you to the new page, and start typing- leave your existing sandbox without saving so you don't have to re-open it to delete the text you temporarily added.

If you want more sandboxes, just create them - I think there is a limit to how many, but AFAIK you can have something like 256 of them

As for

WP:NOTDIR as their argument. Personally I don't see that it adds a lot of value, and I can't imagine people reading such a list from top to bottom, but they may know they saw artist X at venue Y so can look it up to see when that concert was.
Your list was collapsed, so people could just ignore it in the article, so was not taking up excess space on the page. However, very long lists can make loading an article very slow, especially on an old phone in a rural area, I suggest you keep talking to him, and/or start another free-standing list, which can be linked to in the article. - Arjayay (talk

) 15:00, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Xinyang Aliciabritney - one afterthought - if you forget what sandboxes you have created, you can find a list of them by going to your "Contributions" page, and clicking "Subpages" in the box right at the bottom of the page - this will list them all. - Arjayay (talk) 15:15, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Under what kind of circumstances do I create WP:LIST on an article page and under what kind of scenario do I create a separate stand alone sub-article page with a link attached to it? Who else are able to see my Sandbox draft besides myself? Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 07:47, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Xinyang Aliciabritney, AFAIK there is no clear guideline on this, but lists should not dominate an article - even if collapsed. However, a very short stand alone list is as likely to cause problems as a very long embedded list. As explained at Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists:-

Some Wikipedians feel that some topics are unsuitable by virtue of the nature of the topic. Following the policy spelled out in What Wikipedia is not, they feel that some topics are trivial, non-encyclopedic, or not related to human knowledge. If you create a list like the "list of shades of colors of apple sauce", be prepared to explain why you feel this list contributes to the state of human knowledge.

As for sandboxes, yes people can see them, but only if they know where to look, or do an all namespace Wikipedia search. They should not be indexed by google, bing or other search engines. Unlike a "Draft article" editors will not normally interfere with your sandboxes, unless there are serious legal problems - defamation or copyright - or you are using them as a web-host. - Arjayay (talk) 16:29, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

That is why if I felt that the list is way too long till the extent that it dominates a huge chunk of the main article, I will create a separate standalone article instead to avoid any inconvenience. The degree of usefulness remains subjective as some users whom are music fans may find it pretty interesting or useful if they are looking for historical archives of their favourite artists while others will find it dull/boring/uninteresting/useless/meaningless. However, I do understand that I can never please every editors out there and therefore I am trying my very best to include proper references (not just bare URLs or expired links etc) on the new pages I've created. (i.e.

" to avoid diverting the gist of the main topic & to avoid taking too much time for it to load a page; just like what you have told me earlier. How do I leave a message on talk page using Wikipedia mobile app on my Samsung Galaxy Note 5 by the way? It has been very frustrating for me to check any new notifications from there. I also having a really hard time finding the "Edit history" tab on an article page when I look it up on my phone. Please advise me on how to do that. Thanks! Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 16:33, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Magnolia677 have reported me to the Wikipedia administrator for disruptive editing (i.e. vandalism} on my recent edit on

) 11:14, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Xinyang Aliciabritney - Sorry I did not reply sooner, but I have been away for the last 4 days.
I have replied at ANI, which seems to have quietened down. Unfortunately, the fact that you have a problem with your laptop and providing references on a mobile phone is more difficult, is no reason not to provide them. The provision of references is non-negotiable - No reference = no inclusion. As for your other questions about the mobile version, I cannot help you, as I do not even have a smart-phone, let-alone use it for editing here.
I have said I will keep an eye on you for the next few weeks, so please do not let me down. Please continue providing references for the material you have added, and please do not add any more information without a proper reference. It is quality, not quantity, that counts. - Arjayay (talk) 10:21, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Sir, indigenous people in India have been mistreated throughout the history. Hence they are quite sensitive to what non-tribals write or talk about them. User Purty must have felt somethings as incorrectly written in the Ho language page. Although I don't agree with the edits the user was making, but understanding his sentiments, I apologize on behalf of the user. (I'm a Ho myself.) Singkiring57 (talk) 19:21, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Singkiring57 - Thank you for your post, and for your useful edits to the Ho language page. Unfortunately, since your edits, User:Purty has, yet again, re-added the link to Ho which is a disambiguation page (an index of other pages), so should not be linked-to in any article. Rather than me repeatedly removing this incorrect link, could you please remove it, and explain to User:Purty why this should not be re-added.

It is not just Indian indigenous people that have been mistreated, the problem has occurred throughout the world, and we have numerous articles on such groups. Unfortunately, as with the

reliable sources. - Arjayay (talk

) 07:51, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Unsourced edits

Hi, I have already left my reply on my talk page. Please take a look at it. It is a common practice to change the name of diplomatic missions from "High Commission" to "Embassy" after a country has left the Commonwealth. Don't you understand that? High Commissioner is a position held when both the sending and receiving country are members of the Commonwealth.

My sincere apology for disappointing you but I really don't understand why making such changes while stating my reasons isn't good enough. Do I need any references to proof that "High Commissions" has been changed to "Embassy" when it is a non-disputable fact in the first place? Which part of my explaination is still unclear? How come you are able to keep track of any new edits that I have made?

I am also not aware of what exactly constitutes to an original research as I may have overlooked when LemonGirl1942 gave me the guideline page. You may wish to give me a few such examples to illustrate it. Please don't report me to ANI yet as I am still clueless with original research despite having a better understanding of unsourced edit. Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 12:11, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

verified

.

Yes you do need "references to proof that "High Commissions" has been changed to "Embassy" when it is a non-disputable fact in the first place" - because it is certainly not a "non-disputable fact". (Your statement that a "High Commissioner is a position held when both the sending and receiving country are members of the Commonwealth." is incorrect - see

High Commissioner

, but that is irrelevant).

I defended you at ANI by stating that you now realised "that proper references from reliable sources are a fundamental requirement, not an optional extra." Unfortunately, my belief was mistaken, as, by trying to argue that references are not required, you clearly do not understand that references are a fundamental requirement.
Let us keep it simple - do not add, or alter, any information, in any article, without citing a

Other stuff exists

is not a valid argument in Wikipedia - we know there is some poorly referenced material, but we are trying to improve the Encyclopaedia, not bring it all down to the worst example.

As for your question "How come you are able to keep track of any new edits that I have made?"; any editor, can see easily every edit, of any other editor. Your edit list is here, and is exactly the same list as you see by clicking on "contributions" at the top of the page with a PC or Laptop - I do not know about phones. As I said at ANI "I am willing to keep an eye on their edits for the next few weeks" so I am now honour bound to check your edits.

As for

Original research

, which is summarized as

" ... all material in Wikipedia must be attributable to a reliable, published source. Articles may not contain any new analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not clearly stated by the sources themselves"

So, even if you find a

reliable source, stating that one High Commission has become an Embassy, you cannot then change all the High Commissions to Embassies, as this would be "to reach or imply a conclusion not clearly stated by the sources" This may, or may not be, what Lemongirl942 was referring to - you would have to ask her. - Arjayay (talk

) 16:46, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

I really appreciate your time to explain to me about the policies while clarifying my doubts here. Please do not be too quick to pass your judgement just because of my new unsourced edits on the High Commissions. U said that u were wrong in defending and supporting me in the first place which makes me upset when I hear that from you.

Is it alright for you to check my work if I am unsure if what I have added requires references from now on? It is highly possible for me to insert information with original research without me noticing it in the first place. Perhaps I would like you to check my recent edits on

Entertainment events at Staples Center and give me your feedbacks on my edits there. These are the articles that I'm editing more frequently right now. Do point out to me if you noticed any unreliable references so that I can remove it ASAP. I will try my very best to include the most reliable references to it or I will remove them manually by myself otherwise. Do let me know if data on attendance and box office should be cited with references as well. Thank you. Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk

) 10:40, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Yes of course "attendance and box office should be cited with references" - otherwise anyone can simply make up the numbers for attendance and box office figures. Assuming you did not make them up, you must have got them from somewhere, so that source needs to be cited.

As I said in bold above:- Do not add, or alter, any information, in any article, without citing a

verified

.

Please read the two articles linked in that sentence:-

Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources explains what Wikipedia means by a reliable source. - Arjayay (talk

) 16:43, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

I have gotten them on other Wikipedia articles related to tour pages, so I just simply copied and paste it there. Does this same rule applies for "Supporting Acts" as well? If that is the scenario here, I will remove the "Attendance" and "Box Office" column" instead since it is too tricky and difficult to verify them. I don't wish to sound silly to you but I would like to confirm any doubts I have before I make any further edits. Please keep an eye on me if you noticed any unauthorized edits being made as I need more advice and supervisions for the time being. Just remember

WP:GF when it comes to my edits here. Taken note of what you highlighted in bold. Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk

) 05:28, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Adjustment to payment providers

Hi Arjayay,

I have added an amendment to the list of online payment service providers. Please could you take a look at my revisions and let me know if you approve of it being changed? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_online_payment_service_providers#Amend_Atos_to_Worldline

Hi Ghesp - I have replied at Talk:List of online payment service providers, to keep the all the conversation/discussion in a related place.
PS Please sign all posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp. - Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 09:36, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Edit at Teahouse

Your recent deletion of a duplicate question from the Teahouse looks (in the edit diff) entrirely correct, but somehow has not pruduced the intended result. Maybe there was an edit clash, I was simultaneously answering the (upper version of) the question. I am reluctant to try to sort out what happened while I don't undertand it. Maproom (talk) 09:40, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Maproom
Looking at the history, you completed your reply at 09.25, and I deleted the earlier question at 09.27 so, unless you tried to make an edit after your 09.25 one, which was lost due to an edit conflict, I'm not sure what you think is "not the intended result" ? Since my edit David Biddulph removed the first question by that editor, which, as it was mixed up with the previous question, I did not recognize as another repeat. - Arjayay (talk) 10:07, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

My mistake. I now realise that Imran Sarwar asked his question three times, one of them with no heading; and you removed one of them. Maproom (talk) 12:55, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Interlanguage

Sorry, I couldn't exactly get you. Where was the mistake and which article? I would look to rectify. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thapa Kazi999 (talk • contribs) 16:23, 23 October 2016 (UTC) I checked the upper left button of language interlinks of the article and it linked to counterpart article in other languages exactly. How was it mistake and where?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thapa Kazi999 (talk • contribs) 16:32, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Note for the archive User:Thapa Kazi999 was indeffed on 2 November 2016

Adam's Peak

I'm wondering about socks here. Either that or meatpuppets. Doug Weller talk 09:42, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi User:Doug Weller - almost certainly - four new accounts in less than 15 hours, three of which make semi-protected edit requests as their first and only edit, the other commenting in a (closed) requested move discussion, creating a redirect page as their only two edits. 2 IPs making semi-protected edit requests in the same time-window. As long as they keep creating new accounts they will not become autoconfirmed .... - Arjayay (talk) 10:43, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Which is a good thing of course. Doug Weller talk 11:20, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Distance

Do we need distances map for Transport section like Nizamabad,_Telangana#Roads?--Vin09 (talk) 15:37, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Vin09
I can't see that it adds any "value" to the page, but I don't know of any guideline against it, other than it being totally unsourced. - Arjayay (talk) 15:46, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Persians

You gave me a warning changing the Persian people page. But someones obviously vandalizing that page as theyre only Including Iranian Persians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iranianguy (talk • contribs) 03:23, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

So far, you have supplied no

reliable sources, written by well-established authors (as this is a large subject) that explicitly state that these aforementioned groups are part of the ethnic Persian group, and fall under its label. So far however, you are editing based on your personal opinion regarding what it should be -- which is clear cut disruption. - LouisAragon (talk

) 23:55, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

For the archive record User:Iranianguy was indeffed at 02.07 the following morning - Arjayay (talk) 08:16, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Reciprocity columns

Ivanacurtis asked me for the reason that I have added the "Reciprocity" columns on

WP:V

, he/she would have already reverted my edit but instead, he/she went on to help me make further improvements to the edits that I have already made in the first place. May I know if references is required for that since the answer for "Reciprocity" is either a "Yes" or a "No" which I believe references isn't necessary? Please advice me on that. Do I have to prove references to prove that the sun rises from the east instead of the west or having to prove evidence that there are 365 days in a year or 7 days in a week? I find it ridiculous that undisputable facts have to be sourced with reliable references.

Also, if a touring artist made an announcement regarding tour dates for an upcoming World Tour on their Facebook/Twitter, may I use that as a reliable references? How do I change the title for an article/page by the way? Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 08:21, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

@Xinyang Aliciabritney: I did not revert your edit. I've just asked where you sourced the information. Ivancurtisivancurtis (talk) 08:31, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Sigh -

ANI for not providing citations for information you have added. I supported you at ANI as I thought you now understood that ANY information you add, needs to be sourced. However, from your statement "I find it ridiculous that undisputable facts have to be sourced with reliable references." it is clear that you do not, or do not want to, understand.
To quote Wikipedia:Verifiability

"Readers must be able to check that any of the information within Wikipedia articles is not just made up. This means all material must be attributable to reliable, published sources."

Please stop trying to find excuses for not providing citations. Assuming you have not made things up, you must have found the information somewhere, so cite where - it is much easier to do so at the time, than to go back and try and relocate the reference.

Furthermore I have repeatedly explained that "

other stuff exists

" is not a valid argument in Wikipedia, so please stop trying to use it.

With regards to your future events announced on Twitter etc., please see

WP:NOTPROMOTION such information is highly likely to be challenged or removed, as it can be seen as promoting ticket sales for an event. I would NOT add such information. - Arjayay (talk

) 09:05, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Hey Aryajay, please check my talk page as I have already discussed it with Ivanacurtis. He said that he might have missed something from it between me and Twofornights. I was unsure and need more advice on this that is why I came to you for help. Please don't get too annoyed or irritated if I kept asking you similar questions. So that means a references is needed to prove that the sun rises from the east instead of any other directions? Or is it disputable to mention that the earth is round and not flat? I don't wanna sound silly here but I wish to get this very clear. For some sample questions, please refer to my talk page.

For the article on

Entertainment events at Sydney Super Dome, may I know which are the unreliable references that I have provided? Magnolia 677 have previously mentioned on ANI that I have some unreliable references on that page which doesn't prove what I have added was accurate and precise, I know it may seem to be troublesome for you but I hope to gain a deeper insights on that. Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk

) 09:15, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

This is covered in

WP:REFACTORING causes confusion, and should not be done to make your question look better or the answer look wrong. It also creates numerous edit conflicts which are annoying. - Arjayay (talk

) 10:48, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Hitler Youth Reversion

Ah, thanks. I understand now. Thanks for the explanation! I will take that into consideration when editing other Wikipedia pages and very much appreciate that you explained. (If you didn't, people who don't look at the thing at the top that says "Written in British English" (like me) would have been bothered. That's how edit wars start.) Thanks, EatePurple (talk) 00:10, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Clarification

Hi Arjayay, I'd love to know which of Wikipedia's policies frowns on adding telephone numbers to school pages.

Thanks, Greatkid18 Greatkid38 (talk) 14:40, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi

guideline on editing with a conflict of interest
Thanks - Arjayay (talk

) 14:50, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! How about including national flags? I've seen them on a number of wiki articles. Any issue with that too? Greatkid38 (talk) 16:05, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

As I stated in my edit summary when removing it the first time - "Flag removed as

Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Article guidelines#General tips

a section of the article referred to above:-

10. Flag icons

should not be used

.

Please note the green text in that sentence, which if you click on it will also take you to

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (icons)#Avoid flag icons in infoboxes
There are two main instances where flags are allowed in infoboxes - sportspeople who have represented their country, and military articles. - Arjayay (talk

) 16:18, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Unclear additions

Nepali languages

Mahesh pant (talk) 14:54, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Hindu language

Mahesh pant (talk) 14:52, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi Mahesh pant
Please do not try to hide your new posts in the middle of the page, but start a new section at the bottom, with a title.
However, as you know how to find your way around, and how to sign your posts, I suspect you are not a new editor and knew that in any case.
What are you trying to say? - Arjayay (talk) 15:01, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Please dont revert my edits

Arjay please dont revert my edits because renamed user henga2423 told me to remove that conversation. Arjun Kapoor 85 (talk)

Arjun Kapoor 85 - it is not up to you, or henga2423 to decide what is in an archive - it stands as a record of the discussion and should NOT be deleted or refactored - Arjayay (talk) 13:35, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Note for the archive User:Arjun Kapoor 85 was indeffed at 01.49 the following day - Arjayay (talk) 08:22, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks...

Shit, I keep forgetting! Thanks for the assist. :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:59, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

No worries Cyphoidbomb, I keep forgetting the colon at the beginning of my reply, so my message runs into the post before it - old age - huh - Arjayay (talk) 08:24, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Talkpage

Hiya! I think you used the userpage instead of the talkpage. Please see User:Christof Bucherer. Have a nice day, (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 15:47, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi The Quixotic Potato - you are right - I did mistakenly put the first notice on the User page, then realized and copied it to the Talk page. I didn't remove the copy from the user page as I didn't want an potential excuse for "thinking it had been dropped, as the notice had been removed" or suchlike - Arjayay (talk) 16:35, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

OK. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 16:53, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Your feedback requested re major changes to Cannabis in the United States

Please see: Talk:Cannabis_in_the_United_States#Proposing_bold_changes_at_Cannabis_in_the_United_States

Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 21:42, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Raebareli

I've cited my sourceof my edits. All edits made by me on the page Raebarli were basedon information provided on the official website of Raebareli district- http://raebareli.nic.in/. Also as the info mentioned there had certain spelling mistakes, so I corrected it. But all this was removed by you. Why! I'm unable to understand.Seomelono (talk) 09:26, 16 November 2016 (UTC) seomelono

Hi

WP:Referencing for beginners - thanks - Arjayay (talk

) 09:37, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

The Help Desk Contributor Award

	The Help Desk National Hero Award
	Your work and contributions at the Help Desk are exemplary. With intelligent and most helpful inputs, you are truly a Help Desk National Hero :) Keep up the great work! ❤️ Lourdes 17:24, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Lourdes - but I still have to go there and ask questions myself sometimes ! - Arjayay (talk) 17:30, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

November 2016

- lollerwaffle (talk

) 10:27, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi, is there a reason why you aren't going to leave a notice? Do I not need to leave them for IP's either? Have I been doing it wrong?

- lollerwaffle (talk

) 04:47, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi

lollerwaffle - No, you have not been doing anything wrong.
Although I use the templates a lot (see my contributions), I do not always leave one for the first edit by an IP. Many such edits are "hit and run" - a bit of vandalism knowing it cannot be traced. Increasingly, IPs are "dynamic" - the same person will have a different IP the next time they visit Wikipedia, so won't ever see the message. Other IPs are shared computers, in libraries, schools etc. which again means the message may not be seen, as the person will use a different computer next time. Messages can also create confusion and annoyance - when an innocent person, using a dynamic IP or a shared computer, reads a warning message and thinks they are being blamed for vandalism which they did not commit. However, if an IP continues disruptive editing, I will warn them for their subsequent edits. The difficulty is working out which editors are trolling - trying to provoke a reaction - please see Wikipedia:Deny recognition.
As a friendly piece of advice - I suggest you do not go around telling people what to do, as in your statement "Please add a user warning template to User_talk:203.205.27.223" above - if you think something needs doing, then do it yourself. I just laughed, but some other editors may get annoyed - Arjayay (talk

) 10:33, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

You're right, my apologies as that was rude of me. I was considering leaving a notice on your behalf but I thought that might be a bad thing, next time if I feel the need I'll just go ahead, but after what you said and discussing it with another user, I'll just ease up on dynamic IP hit-and-runs unless they're doing repeat edits. Thanks for your detailed explanation, it's greatly appreciated!

- lollerwaffle (talk

) 12:25, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

hi

Paramdeeptung (talk) 17:53, 24 November 2016 (UTC)Dear Arjayay I am sorry but I do not agree with you.

1- I am not saying that we need to write Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji. I am saying wherever we have used Guru Nanak Dev , just add "Ji" to it. 2- If we use Guru Nanak it is fine. 3- We can never remove Guru from a Guru's name. No one has that power. If you do so you disrespect the Guru. 4- Dasam Granth and Guru Granth Sahib Ji are two different things. We never refer to it as the Granth. If you do so, you are disrespecting God. It is a must to add Ji after Guru Granth Sahib. Dasam Granth since the beginning is known with that name. 5- Other are Adi Granth and Dasam Granth whose name are like this since time immemorial.

Hi Paramdeeptung
It is not ME you are disagreeing with - it is members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Sikhism - who drafted the guidelines.
You will have to take it up with them, but until they are changed, by consensus, those are the guidelines we will be using - Arjayay (talk) 18:14, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

hello

Paramdeeptung (talk) 21:24, 24 November 2016 (UTC)notice for dispute resolution that i have filed today. stay informed

The dispute in which you are named is at

WP:DRN#Talk:Guru Gobind_Singh, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nanded&oldid=751314497. --David Biddulph (talk

) 00:39, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello

Hello and thanks for your email about the Gran Canaria page. I am indeed new to contributions. I did not mean to include any promotional materials. Can you please help me with how and what would be suitable to be included? Some pages are indeed missing important information. My goal is to add my website (which is a resource, not just a for profit blog).

talk

) 12:19, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi

reliable sources to be used as references in articles, which requires a publisher with an established reputation for fact-checking.
Please do not add your website to any more articles. or you are likely to be blocked, and please note that, because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings. Furthermore, persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted, preventing anyone from linking to them from all Wikimedia sites, as well as potentially being penalized by search engines. - Arjayay (talk

) 14:20, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

You will note that your website has automatically appeared on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports at 12.46 - so people will be looking out for any further additions - Arjayay (talk) 14:25, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Arjayay I'd really love it if you could remove my website from whatever spam report you put it up on. I did not work hard and spent all this investment for you to take a glance at it and decide it's spam. Just because it's new does not make it spam.

I am well aware of the nofollow tag feature and I know very well that a wikipedia link is worthless in SEO terms, why would I go through the trouble and edit a Wikipedia page then. I have been creating web properties online for over a decade. I know what I am doing here.

Can you kindly remove my website from that spam report? I would really appreciate it. Thank you

talk

) 14:41, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

talk

) 14:46, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Premier League

Hi. Just a small comment about this edit at 2016–17 Premier League. Usually we dont update the infobox until all matches for that weekend/round has been played and all sources has been updated, to avoid easy errors. The bottom of the infobox after your edit stated "All statistics correct as of 21 November 2016." but at that time Arsenal had not 12 unbeaten matches, so (if I am allowed to be a bit blunt) you actually inserted something that was factually incorrect. The mainreason for waiting is a lot of partial updates, for example people updated "matches played" but not "goals scored" making the "average per game" being incorrect. Hope you understand why we usually wait with updating infoboxes. Qed237 (talk) 18:42, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Endurance International Group article

Hi, Arjayay. I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a look at the edit request I posted on the Endurance International Group article's talk page 5 weeks ago? I see that you have responded to edit requests about this company before. I've posted requests for assistance at 3 WikiProjects and messaged at least 4 other editors who have contributed to the article's talk page in the past, but so far no one has responded. I am happy to answer any questions or concerns here or on the article's talk page. Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to offer. Melanie from Endurance (talk) 00:04, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Arjayay, I'm returning to make sure my note wasn't overlooked because I forgot to include a section heading. Please let me know if you're able to help or can point me to another place to ask for assistance. Thank you! 50.201.183.98 (talk) 19:31, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Lone Starr

In my opinion the redirect to

List of television programs based on video games, by fixing the link. So in my opinion indeed a disambiguation page is a waste of energy indeed. The article on Lone Starr Records will soon be published! 83.85.143.141 (talk

) 19:42, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi 83.85.143.141 - when an article on Lone Starr Records has been accepted, then a disambiguation page would be in order - but not before - Arjayay (talk) 19:45, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

The only mentioning of Captain Lone Starr, which happens in the disambiguation list

Lone Starr as it is at the moment, does not direct to the Heroes-section on Spaceballs, so has to be fixed anyway. How it got permission anyway ... 83.85.143.141 (talk

) 20:20, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Help talk:Edit summary

Re your edit summary here, please see Wikipedia talk:The Wikipedia Adventure/Archive 2#Adventurers posting at Help talk:Edit summary. They are not trolling, just lost! -- John of Reading (talk) 22:18, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

John of Reading - Thanks - I've never played The Wikipedia Adventure, maybe I should, but unless I make the same mistakes as others I won't discover where these might be. There were 7 edits to that page, by that user, that morning - I wonder if the wording of the adventure needs clarifying? Anyway, thanks again - Arjayay (talk) 08:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

can to play in your team

Can i play for the team please

Hashim jr (talk) 22:16, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

You guys are muslims and we are to can we show our talent to you guys please yaa mohammad Hashim jr (talk) 22:17, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

I want to get the chance of playing soccer in your team please Hashim jr (talk) 22:18, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Hashim jr - please do not put posts in the middle of the page, where they will not be seen, I have moved it here with your other post
I have no idea what you are talking about - neither with regards to your claim about what you think my religion is, nor to playing football - Arjayay (talk) 16:37, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Ho people

Can we meet??? Because I am researcher of HO tribe...so I want to show the evidences...so that you cannot modify editing...if you modify editing then I will file a case against you accordingly Wikipedia internet protocol Act.

Purty (talk) 16:27, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Purty Please do not put new posts in the middle of the page, put them at the bottom, with a new section title. like I have done for you.

As I explained on your talk page in October:-

Wikipedia is not interested in what you "know". Wikipedia is only interested in what has already been reported in

veriifed by including a Citation

at the same time as the information, that information should not be added.

You may be "a researcher of the Ho tribe", but

reliable

, sources, as I have repeadedly explained to you.

I have no idea what you think the "Wikipedia internet protocol Act" might be, but it doesn't exist. However Wikipedia has a specific policy of WP:No legal threats, violation of which will lead to you being indefinitely blocked - so I suggest you apologise, and withdraw your "threat" - Arjayay (talk) 16:52, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Sri Padaya

The Location you entered as Adams peak is not correct.Its officially called as Sri Padaya by the Government of Srilanka.Many of wikipedia visitors have mentioned it already.But you haven't take any decision.Please change it from Adams peak to Sri Padaya (ශ්‍රී පාදය). Thank you. Naveen ran (talk) 13:51, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Wien, and that is its official name, but Wikipedia calls it Vienna, as that is the common name in English. Arjayay (talk

) 14:09, 6 December 2016 (UTC)