User talk:Awesome Aasim/xfdvote/Archive 2

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This RfD edit added the vote to the section before the one I was voting at. As you can see from the <!-- comment -->, it was trying to vote in the correct nomination. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:23, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

• Aaaaaaaaa. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:04, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

  Looks fine to me. You can use PasteBin or Puush to maybe send a screen capture? Or put a link to Google Drive? Aasim 21:30, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

  @Awesome Aasim: So it's really intended that a vote with the comment <!--VCB 1234qwer1234qwer4 Welch language--> gets added under the section "Darren Douglas"? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:00, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

  @1234qwer1234qwer4 obviously not. I have been a little caught up with other things on this wiki and IRL. I attempted a bodge fix. It may or may not work. Do you want to try again see if the issue persists? Aasim 14:54, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

  Awesome Aasim, well, it is a bit hard to reproduce as I cannot make someone add a new nomination while I'm voting, but if I won't run into the issue the next couple days I'll say this is fixed. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 15:05, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

• This is getting out of hand. It seems the script is looking for the section number, which may change while composing the vote due to new nominations, instead of the section heading. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:38, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

  @1234qwer1234qwer4 I added it to my todo to fix. I think it is just something with having to parse the text before saving as the page may get updated with new nominations. Thanks again for pointing it out.  :) Aasim 14:45, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

• Now it's the other way round, publishing to the section before the intended one. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:15, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Please see Hardeep Singh Dimpy Dhillon where the reason field is bizarre 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:58, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

File:Screenshot of a problem to illustrate the problem.png

may be deleted once you have seen it 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:06, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim not sure how often you check this page 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:29, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Hmm... weird. Was the format for AfDs changed recently? That might explain the bug. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis 19:01, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Timtrent Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis 19:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim Not that I have noticed. The issue happened in the last very few days. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Timtrent Well, yep. Looks like I have some more work to do :) Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis 20:05, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim Ah. That explains it. Good luck 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:07, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Timtrent That was easy. Everything should be all good now. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis 20:10, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim Well done. Thank you. I'll ask that the screenshot be deleted now 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:28, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

I've been getting this bug and I don't know why. As you can see, there are two reply buttons where there should be none.

RPI2026F1 (talk) 18:35, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim, looks like the script is interfering with DiscussionTools (not sure if it's been fixed since but pinging since you haven't responded here). 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:25, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

I think that happens because the MW API puts those reply buttons in. Does this script affect the use of any tools or is it stylistic? Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 23:53, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim when I hit proceed with my vote the text do not appear. See this diff [1] Lightoil (talk) 03:49, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

@Lightoil You can revert your edit and try again. If you are still experiencing this problem let me know. Also give information on device, etc. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 04:00, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim thanks for your advice the issue seems to have disappeared. Lightoil (talk) 04:10, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim your script does not work when there is no preview being shown. I am editing from a laptop on Google Chrome using the scripts on User:Lightoil/common.js and using vector 2022 skin. Ping me if you need more information. Lightoil (talk) 07:13, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

@Lightoil Yeah this is a known problem; if the wrong preview is being shown or no preview is being shown then it is probable that you cannot use the script buttons to !vote. I have been busy and I think I may need to repatch the script so it works with CFDs again. Hopefully over the summer when I am less busy with university. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 15:06, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi. I just came across someone using this tool, and while I don't have a problem with the tool itself, its name and the edit summaries it leaves ("Vote via XFD voting tool") seem to go against long-standing Wikipedia practice to avoid describing XfD responses as votes, as explained at WP:Polling is not a substitute for discussion. I'm not sure if using !vote is still a thing (rarely see it nowadays), but even if not, maybe there's some other wording that could be used that avoids the v-word? --Paul_012 (talk) 15:01, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

I agree that the wording is very problematic. And adding an ! doesn't solve it.

My suggestion would be to move this page to User:Awesome Aasim/XFD-contributor and change the edit summary to something like "Commented via XFD-contributor".

We're in a type-written environment - words matter. - jc37 15:52, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Adding ping - User:Awesome Aasim - to see if this can be resolved. - jc37 23:52, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

@Jc37 Should I change it to this?

"!vote via XFD voting tool"

Or this:

"[type of !vote] (via XFD voting tool)" Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 01:01, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

That's part of the issue - it shouldn't be called a voting tool. Whether we add the exclamation point or not. We do everything we can to try to get editors to discuss, per

WP:CON

. So referring to them as "votes" is problematic. And contrary to fundamental policy.

There are other words which would better describe. I suggested forms of the word "comment" and "contribute" above.

We can go look at at a thesaurus for other options if you prefer. - jc37 01:13, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

I quickly changed the terminology on the main page to "XFD Participation" but the dialogues still need more work. There is a huge ton of instruction creep and I think the tool might need a rewrite for maintainability. I also changed the summaries in the six XFD scripts to !Vote for now, I know it won't be enough but it's better than nothing until I can give more thought how to structure this. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 01:21, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for working on this. - jc37 01:29, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Directly mentioning keep/delete/support/oppose/whatever in the edit summary sounds like a good idea to me. "Response" I think is another term that could be considered as an alternative for the name. "Comment" would be the simplest choice but is hindered by the fact that it is often specifically used in XfD discussions as a heading indicating that no !vote is being made, so it might be a bit confusing in that manner. --Paul_012 (talk) 01:42, 14 September 2023 (UTC)