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If the article is like the present one, it may still be deletable as spam (advertising or public relations ) even with permission. Usually it is better to rewrite the material. In addition, it must have some sources from some outside third party reputable publication to show that it's important. DGG (talk) 22:04, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to your question

In reply to your question, even if you had permission to post the material, it's very promotional in tone. We don't permit article material to be promotional, as we require all articles to be written in a

reliable sources independent of the article's subject. If a significant amount of such source material does exist, it's entirely possible an article on the subject would be appropriate if neutrally written. If not, the subject is probably not an appropriate one for an article. If you need any further clarification or have any more questions, please ask away! Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply
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If I may jump in here,
reliable source
material.
As for an independent source example to follow:

In 1992, the Institute of Certified Practitioners established the designation CPTx (Certified Practitioner of Taxation) to represent educational and practice standards for tax practitioner despite the existence of the Accreditation Council for Accountancy & Taxation (ACAT), which offers the designations, Accredited Tax Pre-parer and Accredited Tax Advisor.[1]

  1. ^ Scott, Robert W. (December 7, 1992) Accounting Today. Upstart group scraps with IRS on 'CPTx.' (Institute of Certified Practitioners considering challenge to Internal Revenue Service ruling disallowing tax preparers' use of 'Certified Practitioner of Taxation' title). Volume 6; Issue 23; Page 2.
Note how the ACAT information was taken from Accounting Today. Accounting Today is independent from Accreditation Council for Accountancy & Taxation. Also note how I footnoted that one sentence so others can
verify
the material by going to the December 7, 1992 Accounting Today magazine issue and looking on page 2 of that issue. Some others that may be independent
  1. Pate, Donald B. (July 1998) National Public Accountant. Accreditation--what is it? How can you use it to enhance your practice? Volume 43; Issue 5; Page 10.
  2. National Public Accountant. (January 1999) The Uniform Accountancy Act and the Uniform Accountancy Act rules. Volume 44; Issue 1; Page 1.
  3. Kolar, Otto M. (March 1999) National Public Accountant. Why should I pursue accreditation? Volume 44; Issue 2; Page 23.
  4. The Competency Factor; Or, If We're So Smart, How Do We Prove It?
  5. Statement of Robert L. Cross, Chairman, Right to Practice Committee, National Society of Accountants Testimony Before the Subcommittee on Oversight of the House Committee on Ways and Means, July 20, 2005
If you build the ACAT article from the above six sources, footnoting each sentence in the ACAT article and not using any information taken directly from the ACAT organization, the Wikipedia ACAT article might survive deletion. - Jreferee (Talk) 01:11, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Jreferee. I will re-write the article using the example you have provided above. I have one more aspect that needs clarification. What is the best way to make the necessary comparison/contrast between the CPA and ABA without sounding promotional? The principal thing here is to ensure that readers also know the difference in designations denoting state licensure (e.g., CPA, PA, RPA, etc.) and designations granted by non-governmental organizations (e.g., CMA, ABA, etc.) so that the reader would not confuse a state-licensed accountant with a non state-licensed accountant. The differences are covered in a few areas of practice (tax and audit) but are very significant. Again, thank you so much for the excellent feedback!! --06:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)~cj_aba 17/July 07

I'm glad I could help. I started a draft article in your user space
reliable sources and probably can be done in one or two sentences. (Is there a reason you want to give publicity to the CPA in the ACAT article?) Also, you may want to check on the ACAT's trademarks. A search at US trademark search shows some of them are no longer registered but ACAT still uses that little circle "R" in its logo. -- Jreferee (Talk) 00:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply
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Jreferee's given you some great advice, I don't think I really have anything to add to it. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:07, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]