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Question from NZ9616 (17:32, 13 April 2024)
I am unable to delete article edited thrice --NZ9616 (talk) 17:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Wikipedia:User rights for what different permissions do. Or rephrase if you were trying to ask something else. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:38, 13 April 2024 (UTC)]
- I want to delete my article at this time I don't want to publish or edit right know on Wikipedia --NZ9616 (talk) 17:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- Are you referring to your user page (User:NZ9616)? It appears to be the closest thing resembling an article in your contributions. I can delete it if that is what you wish. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- I want to delete my article at this time I don't want to publish or edit right know on Wikipedia --NZ9616 (talk) 17:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Re: Tryptofish
Hey, I've been meaning to weigh in on the Tryptofish discussion but I didn't think it was entirely appropriate to comment there for several reasons. While I don't truly understand the nature and history of the dispute, I do personally understand what it's like to be falsely accused of something (you only have to go over to Wikinews to see what happened to me over there). I hope you can find a way to let it go, even though, like you, I feel the need to clear my name, but it's just not worth it. The only criticism you should ever let get to you is from close friends and family. People will make stuff up about you, regardless of what you do. Although it's been criticized as mundane or trite by those in the know, Yuval Noah Harari often talks about how much of our lives are filled by stories, not only those we tell ourselves, but in this example, stories, perhaps fictional, that others tell about us. It's just the way things are. In times like these, I often find comfort in the story "The old man lost his horse". Whatever happens, I want you to know that Wikipedia is very lucky to have you. Viriditas (talk) 20:39, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: If you're curious, the background is me reaching out to them because of what they said at my RfA. They !voted neutral because of "vibes", hence my talk page heading. They haven't otherwise made a habit of saying I resemble a banned sockmaster, though. I genuinely did think that seeing photo/video of me would've been enough. It is disheartening that my attempt to assuage their concerns didn't do anything... but I doubt there's anything I can actually do to ever convince them entirely. It's an unfortunate reality even if it is one that is hard to move past. All I can say is that I wasn't an evil mastermind at 16 when I created my account. Cheers, Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 20:47, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- I truly believe you. In the heat of several on-wiki conflicts, Tryptofish has said several things about me in the past that weren't true, but we are now friends. It's very possible that I even said things about him that weren't true as well, but that was a long time ago, and I don't recall. The point is, we've both moved past it in our own way. You have to find your way. I wish you luck, and if you ever need to call upon me for any reason, you know where my talk page is. Viriditas (talk) 20:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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- @Fram: Feel free to revert me if you like on that basis, then. The edit history for that page is interesting in that edits like this usually do appear to be reverted [1] but maybe that also falls under having permission? Something to think about, I guess. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:45, 23 April 2024 (UTC)]
- I don't edit their user page or talk page for unrelated reasons. Just next time, feel free to revert things, but state "thanks for experimenting!" or some such instead of unnecessary biteing the editor. Fram (talk) 15:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)]
- Your feedback is noted. I'll definitely avoid the "permission" angle given that it's directly contradictory. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I would like to say that I do not have a habit of reverting people on that user page specifically and that it's typically non-admins who make such reversions. [2]I just felt the need to clarify in regards to the "immediate" and "admin" aspects. I made the mistake of assuming Jimbo's user page should be treated like any other editor's where such changes would be unwelcome. Anyways, if Jimbo has a problem with it, he can revert or change his userpage to state something else. I'll refrain from doing anything else personally other than leaving talk page comments of my own from now on unless I see obvious vandalism (which this does not count as). Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Your feedback is noted. I'll definitely avoid the "permission" angle given that it's directly contradictory. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- I don't edit their user page or talk page for unrelated reasons. Just next time, feel free to revert things, but state "thanks for experimenting!" or some such instead of unnecessary biteing the editor.
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Community Configuration
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An early version of Community Configuration can be tested at Spanish Beta Wikipedia. We plan to release the new Community Configuration extension to pilot wikis (Arabic and Spanish Wikipedia) in early May, 2024. The first non-Growth team feature to utilize Community Configuration will be Automoderator.
In parallel with the development, the Growth team will propose Community Configuration usage guidelines, Community Configuration design guidelines, and provide technical documentation.
Experiment Results
Add a Image experiment analysis results
The Growth team conducted an experiment to assess the impact of the “Add an Image” structured task on the Newcomer Homepage's "Suggested Edits" module. This analysis finds that the Add an Image structured task leads to an increase in newcomer participation on the mobile web platform, particularly by making constructive (non-reverted) article edits:
- The likelihood that mobile web newcomers make their first article edit (+17.0% over baseline)
- The likelihood that they are retained as newcomers (+24.3% over baseline)
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Personalized praise experiment results
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Question from Zathasht on Help:Getting started (07:19, 24 April 2024)
plz help me i am parsis and my family is moslim i am in troble plz help me --Zathasht (talk) 07:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Zathasht, I'm not really qualified to provide any sort of advice apart from editing Wikipedia. I'd suggest trying to find resources local to you that are relevant to your situation. And if it's some sort of urgent emergency, dialing your local emergency services. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:51, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 25 April 2024
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Abuse of autoblocking
If a user who is blocked takes advantage of autoblocking being enabled for their block to stop other, innocent users from editing by attempting to edit from random IP addresses, what will the administration do about it? Will they send a request to a steward on Meta to lock the account to prevent further collateral damage because the account can no longer be logged into? Faster than Thunder (talk | contributions) 17:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC)