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on the Allentown

Hello, I believe that the 1977 Allentown mayoral election should not be closed as "no consensus", and should either be relisted or closed as delete. No policy-based arguments were used against the deletion, and consensus is formed on strength of arguments as much as voting. No final relist was ever given for this article. I will open a deletion review if I do not hear back from you. Cheers, -1ctinus📝🗨 20:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:POLOUTCOMES on mayorality is not unambiguous, there are multiple factors which influence determining notability. To my knowledge, there's never been a community consensus around the size of a municipal area which provides some kind of presumed notability, although roughly speaking to my reading of the discussions, anything greater than 100,000 people is more often than not persuasive. A third relisting was unlikely to have brought any further insight to the discussion, no consensus seems fairly reasonable to me. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 05:11, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply
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From Wikipedia:Deletion policy: "If in doubt as to whether there is consensus to delete a page, administrators will not normally delete it." "The deletion of a page based on a deletion discussion should be done only when there is consensus to delete." Clearer consensus was needed to destroy an article.
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Consensus
is formed through the careful consideration, dissection and eventual synthesis of different perspectives presented..." It is not a vote, but multiple perspectives are required.
From Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting discussions: For several reasons, "repeatedly relisting discussions merely in the hope of getting sufficient participation is not recommended. In general, a discussion should not be relisted more than twice." (Italics and boldface appear there, not added here for emphasis.) The word final does not appear anywhere on the deletion process page. Announcing "final relist" is not necessary. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 06:10, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for claifying. -1ctinus📝🗨 12:20, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfD to Draft Space

Hello, would you be able to move the deleted page Kinde Atanaw to my userspace at User:Wieditor25/Kinde Atanaw? I would like to keep a copy of the page and monitor this athlete in case he receives significant coverage in the future. Thank you!Wieditor25 (talk) 03:16, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but there was no discussion to move it into draftspace. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 00:55, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I was referring to one of your closures: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kinde Atanaw. Thank you. Wieditor25 (talk) 14:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I closed it based on the AfD discussion, and there was no discussion to move it into draftspace. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 20:05, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thank you for your effort. I've managed to retrieve a copy.Wieditor25 (talk) 21:56, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]