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Notification of VP discussion

A discussion you may be interested in has been opened regarding whether athletes meeting a sport-specific guideline must demonstrate GNG at AfD. You are also indirectly mentioned in this comment. JoelleJay (talk) 22:44, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback on
Bloodless Revolution (Rhode Island)

Hi there, I noticed you reverted my edit adding a pointer to the Rhode Island "Bloodless Revolution" in the disambiguation header for

Bloodless Revolution (Rhode Island) would be reasonable, or is this also excessive? GlobeGores (talk page | user page) 23:23, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply
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@GlobeGores:, thank you for your question. The answer is dependent on understanding the reason we have redirects, disambiguations, or headnotes in the first place. We include these as aids to the reader. We need to consider whether a reader arrived at this page is likely to be looking for the page subject. If there is a reasonable chance that they would not, then one of these types of finding aids is appropriate. So the real question becomes: Is there a reasonable probability that somebody coming to our project looking for information about 1930's Rhode Island politics would instead find the Glorious Revolution? I didn't think that would be the case, which is why I removed the headnote. For the redirect, they question is similar,: Is there a reasonable probability that a reader would type "Bloodless Revolution" into our search bar instead of T.F.Green or History of Rhode Island or similar? I have my doubts about that, as well. From your links, I think that "Bloodless Revolution" would not be the starting point of a search on the topic but be instead something that would come out of research on the topic. I could be wrong, though. Maybe Rhode Island 7th grade history teachers routinely assign "Bloodless Revolution" to their students and expect them to find out it was very different from what the name implies. That's the best guidance I can give you. I hope it helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:20, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wild Cartoon Kingdom

Really, only preserving one sentence from the Wild Cartoon Kingdom article for the merge into Chris Gore? Shameful. TheNewMinistry (talk) 20:45, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TheNewMinistry: Fortunately for me, I'm shameless. YMMV. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:14, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox

That userbox that I created about vindication has nothing to do with by upcoming three month ban if you were thinking that. That was the first time I created a userbox as well, and don't yet know how to do it right yet. Davidgoodheart (talk) 02:40, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Davidgoodheart:, thank you for the explanation. I accept that the timing was misread by others. Stay safe. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 02:46, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Meddle Tour

I'm concerned that when you merged

factually accurate and verifiable" part of the criteria. In this instance, the point is somewhat moot as I've got some book sources here that I can use to resolve the issue, but I would just add a word of caution for future merges. Cheers! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:09, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply
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What's the right page?

What should I do about repeated talk page rule violations? 27.33.119.160 (talk) 22:34, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing. There are no talk page violations identified in any of your complaints. Please stop trying to push your violations of the
WP:BLP. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:38, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Are you saying that repeated talk page violations have nowhere to and hence should never be addressed? Because if not, you didn't answer the question, which is an important one in general and in whatever chance there is you're wrong in this instance. As none of the core content policies are about talk pages, and my complaints are not about anyone's biography, you don't seem to understand the problem at all. 27.33.119.160 (talk) 07:57, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'll say this as clearly as possible: THERE ARE NO TALK PAGE VIOLATIONS in your complaints. Stop trying to complain about something that doesn't exist. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:00, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
All caps assertions are not convincing. Even if you're right, where are talk page violations addressed in general? 27.33.119.160 (talk) 01:39, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is peculiar that you ask my advice and then call it "unconvincing" when told it. You are wrong. Flat out. Period. However convincing you think that advice is, you are not going to get anywhere with this. Please go away. Far, far away. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 01:46, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you removing my edits?

Please give one example of my wrongdoing? Don't remove edits. Aburh (talk) 09:17, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Aburh:, see the edit summaries. They explain the reasoning. If you have further questions, please ask. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 09:19, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Other ULFA commanders have wiki pages, and Rajen Sharma, based on his position within the rebel organisation, deserves one as well. It is self explanatory. Furthermore, that article does not present in AfD. Aburh (talk) 09:23, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For Barbados PM page: Sentences have been improved in accordance with political record writing.
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the standards about notability and when maintenance templates can be removed. The previous version of Mia Mottley more accurately reflected the source cited and so the change was not an improvement. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 09:30, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply
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FYI, this is GeezGod - I have blocked. Girth Summit (blether) 12:40, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, @Girth Summit:. I thought it was likely either them or NeverTry4Me. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:13, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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@AssumeGoodWraith:, thank you for providing the notice which the thread opener was supposed to. As you can see from immediately above, this has already been handled as a vexatious report. Thanks again. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COI. 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 02:35, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply
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@0mtwb9gd5wx:, what they are doing is deleting your attempt to use ersatz personal warnings on article talk pages that contain accusations and aspersion. What they are leaving on your talk page are community-approved warning templates. I don't know what you expect me to do about either. If you don't want to be warned for abusing article talk pages, then don't abuse article talk pages. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 05:53, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Precious anniversary

Precious
One year!

(looks like your 2021 talk didn't make it to the archive) - Prayer for Ukraine --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt:, thank you very much. This is very meaningful to me and very appreciated. Best wishes to you and yours. Stay safe. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:32, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you, I love to hear that, - still, what happened to your 2021 archive? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:56, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Need investigation against you to take on me

Terminally ironic complaint

You are using socks on here for personal attacks. We know that. Stop please. Uyuyioiop (talk) 16:51, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

the sockpuppet page. For the record, I have zero idea who you or "we" are. Feel free to bring your concerns to admin attention. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:01, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
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You are making socks to harrass me. Uyuyioiop (talk) 03:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Since the only edits this account has are these worthless complaints, you are obviously making socks to complain about it. Again, if you think you know who these socks I am using to harass you are, please report it. Otherwise, go away. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 03:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about this, so I revdel'd because I can always un-revdel later.

pinging @Primefac: here too, because they commented that it wasn't outing before I removed it.

My thought is that even though this is probably easily found through Googling, we still shouldn't be linking someone's physical address and phone number if they haven't disclosed on-wiki. Do either of you have info I don't on why this is OK? If you want to email instead, that's fine too. I know this was done in good faith, no worries on that front. if I'm overreacting, I'll undo it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:00, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Floquenbeam:, Ryan's user page identifies that he uses his real name and that he's a solicitor in Manchester, England so I didn't see that as outing because the information was already disclosed on-wiki. Solicitors in England are required to be registered with the Law Society, I believe, so his contact information is required to be easily-available. I won't ask for unrevdelling because it's probably better to err on the side of caution I just wanted to explain my reasoning. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:11, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I understand, your reasoning makes sense but might just cross the fuzzy grey line. Primefac and Barkeep have both questioned my revdel; if either one of them notes my concern about the address and phone number and still don't have a problem with it, I'll undo it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't fully considered the Personally Identifiable Information contained there-in. I've gone ahead and suppressed it and will be raising it onlist for further OS feedback. A more generic statement about why he's busy, without that particular link, would be fine. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:35, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Having (literally) slept on the matter, I wake up to find myself in agreement with Floq and Barkeep's most recent statement - it's one thing to easily search for his name and title on Google and get that link, but it's quite another to post it on a rather well-watched noticeboard for all to see. Primefac (talk) 07:31, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Forgive me for saying this,
WP:OUTING states: Posting another editor's personal information is harassment, unless that person has voluntarily posted their own information, or links to such information Ryan's user page already did post that information. I can't have "outed" information that was always "inned". Due to this site's history of doxxing for harassment, I understand why you, Floquenbeam, ad Barkeep49 are sensitive to this but I would not have posted what I did if I did not think it was already public. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
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I don't think you did anything wrong even if you had googled it. I think our OUTING policy is interpreted in silly ways a lot of the time. But I respect that the community feels otherwise in enforcing it. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:52, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for that, Barkeep. I'm content to accept the consensus of three very experienced admins and let this drop. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:54, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Azov Battalion

I have started a discussion in which you may care to comment at [[1]] Cheers Elinruby (talk) 02:15, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tiny Banker Trojan Page

Please add a paragraph to the Tiny Banker Trojan page that scammers often use this resource to convince victim's that they are 'infected' and they then proceed to ask for payment for 'removal' or other methods of extracting cash from them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.114.129.57 (talk) 16:42, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure why you contacted me about this. Similar information has been in the article for the past six years so I also don't know what you think needs to be added or expanded. All content on Wikipedia is required to comply with the
reliable sources that support this assertion, please use the article's talk page to request this edit. I hope that helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:49, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
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A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Thank you so much for the help you provided me. Also, about finding me some sources. A simple "Thank you" is not enough. That's why I decided to give you that start. Please continue to be as kind and nice you are now! Fisforfenia (talk) 16:15, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your close of
WP:RSN#Skeptical Inquirer at Arbcom

Hello. In your close, you wrote that The four options can roughly be divided into two "use" (Options 1 & 3) [sic] versus two "don't use" (Options 3 & 4) outcomes. It is overwhelmingly clear by both the number and strength of arguments that the discussion participants rejected the latter two options, making this discussion more about under what condidtions use of the Skeptical Inquirer is acceptable. Your close seems to be a

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I reject absolutely the accusation of a supervote. I spent over an hour exhaustively reading that discussion and over twenty minutes writing a detailed close to explain why it wasn't a supervote. To be accused of supervoting within seconds is disheartening. The whole point of outside uninvolved closers is because the discussion participants become two enmeshed in their positions to see that the apparent difference is often not as wide as it seems. That was the case here, I felt. As I mentioned, I wrote the close that endorsed the four options so I am quite conversant with them, thank you. I don't need to have them explained to me. I also know that the presence of statements in a discussion dos not mean they must be taken wholly without question or rejected in detail in a close. For every !voter such as yourself that challenged the reputation for fact-checking there were literally two that said it did have such a reputation. it would have been an actual supervote to do what you ask and express an opinion of which was true. So I did not. If there are disagreements as to who policies are applied in relation to this source well, so what? Those disagreement apply to literally every source ever used on this project. We use article talk pages for a reason. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:02, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Mhawk10:, that was far too snippy of me and I apologize. That said, I did consider whether ruling on the general reputation for fact checking was appropriate or not but did not find that the actual discussion clarified it. The only way that this would have been decidable is on a simple headcounting basis. That is, there we more editors that said it was had such a reputation than those who said it didn't Such a simple vote would violate several policies. Injecting such a determination would have been an invalid close. Between the rock and the hard place, I picked rock. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:14, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply
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I understand that being between a rock and a hard place in closing an RfC, it's often tempting to pick rock. But there was either a rough consensus that "yes, the SI is generally reliable within its area of expertise" or there was no such rough consensus. Regarding it would have been an actual supervote to do what you ask and express an opinion of which was true, I'm also not asking you to express a personal opinion on which is true. I'm asking you to provide a closing summary of a lengthy discussion that addresses how the various participants approached the issue and to
talk) 20:34, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply
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And, if [t]he only way that this would have been decidable is on a simple headcounting basis, that sounds an awful lot like a "no consensus" close in light of
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I mostly liked the close, many editors voting #1 probably don't need RSP and RSNP, they are already doing exactly what Eggishorn suggested as a careful reading of their comments where some do include qualifications shows. I'd like the other close withdrawn, the one that "endorsed the four options"! That said i don't think this dismissal of the importance of fact checking as was done in the RfC is appropriate.
Mhawk10, even you compared SI to our paper of record, but missed that the magazine always goes to fact checkers. I think the argument made is a misunderstanding of what is possible and practical for magazines and newspapers and online sources with less time till publication. How fact checking is done is changing, but it's not true that it is all up to the authors now everywhere. A reputation for fact-checking is still part of core policy and strictly for BLP's. Newsweek went from green to yellow here when they dumped their fact checking department. If editors should no longer look for the professional structure in evaluating such publications, that should be made as a global decision not at made at RSN. There's probably a discussion to be had, i feel a little silly mentioning The New York Times Magazine fact-checking, and that IMDB, linkedin and Wikipedia are mentioned references in that CJR article. But an RfC closure shouldn't be endorsing or accepting arguments that are in direct contravention of what is very clear right now in the core policies. fiveby(zero) 23:46, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Hi Eggishorn, thank you for the close, but I was hoping you could clarify whether there is a consensus against or for specific use cases, such as BLP's, medical articles, and claims outside of their area of expertise? I believe the current wording will lead to disputes as editors who support and oppose its use for a specific use case will both cite it as supporting their position. I was also hoping you could clarify whether it should be classified as generally reliable of no consensus/other considerations apply at
WP:RSP? BilledMammal (talk) 04:12, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply
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