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OK. Makes sense. It was very few lines but if there is any need for this in the future I will do it the way you describe. I have not done any cut and paste in the past. Enricokamasa (talk) 21:09, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An English-language reference from a reliable source would be required, at the very least. -- Scjessey (talk) 21:02, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When Swedes wish each other God Jul, they mean "Merry Christmas", not "Happy solstice". Any dictionary will tell you that julen, jul and the other Scandinavian cognates for "Yule" mean simply "Christmas". Very little is known about pre-Christian Yule, and there is no basis to think that it had anything to do with the solstice. "Secularized" is not the same as "neo-pagan". You don't have a source for any of the claims you are adding. Kauffner (talk) 09:48, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually YOU do not have any source to your statement. Ask ANY teacher in the Swedish langauge and they will agree to that there is no direct translation/correlation Jul vs. Christmas. "Kristi Mässa" would be the correct translation. I just checked with three reliable Swedish encyclopedias and they all refer to "Jul" as the pre-christianity name for - among other traditions - to celebrate the solstice and the making of "blot". When Swedes were Christened they retained the original name "Jul" and many of the traditions (like eating ham) while the birth of Jesus was injected as the reason for celebration. In the antics Dec 25th was the birthday of the God Mithra. There are lots of books re this subject in Swedish. One is "Språkliga intyg om hednisk gudatro i Sverge", Magnus Fredrik Lundgren from 1876. The Swedish museums have a lot of material both published and at their locations. --Enricokamasa (talk) 22:19, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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