User talk:Fklatt

Frederick William Klatt Best Electric Machine [email protected] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.245.16.100 (talk) 13:20, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to 3D printing. It is considered spamming and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings. If you continue spamming, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:47, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mr. Dingley: Sorry for your concern regarding my recent entry for 3d Printing of electric motors and generators. I was only following the United Technologies example. However, after your comment, I understand the conflict. Instead, I would like to put the following into the section, "MotorPrinter is being used to manufacture the only brushless wound-rotor [synchronous] doubly-fed electric machine system known as Synchro-Sym to provide a range of electric motor and generator systems without RE-PM and with cost performance as never before seen" of course with links to "motorprinter", wound rotor doubly fed [Wikipedia], etc.

Is this okay? I am new to at least responding to users, so your response will let me know that I am doing at least this correctly.

Best Regards, Fred Klatt

The subject "Brushless wound-rotor doubly-fed electric machine" has numerous IEEE transactions references added but because of the number of references with article location tags, I placed the link to these references through the Best Electric Machine portal. I believe the portals are purely technical pages of Best Electric Machine. Please take the opportunity to review these articles and if satisfied, please remove the Wikipedia challenge or please give me instructions to remedy the situation. Best Regards, Fred Klatt

You seem to have continued to edit without comment adding material promoting a company you are associated with, Best Electric Machine[2]. Please note such editing is considered

disruptive editing and can lead to your account being blocked. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 17:57, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply

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You may also find Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide to be helpful. --Guy Macon (talk) 18:37, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to second Guy Macon's suggestion. Continuing to add the same edit over and over again is not constructive and can be construed as

WP:NOTHERE behavior. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 12:46, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply

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He did it again.[3] Filing ANI report now. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:01, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:Fklatt adding promotional material. Thank you. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:01, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Fred. I work on conflict of interest issues in Wikipedia, and holy cow, Fred. You have edited directly about your company and your patents, and as far as I can see you have paid no mind to conflict of interest here in Wikipedia. I am providing you with notice Wikipedia'a COI guideline and terms of use, and will have some comments and requests for you below. Please do read this carefully.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:

• Avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.
• Avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).
• Exercise great caution so that you do not accidentally breach Wikipedia's content policies.

Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies. Note that Wikipedia's terms of use require disclosure of your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see

Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. I really hope you can understand that. If every company used Wikipedia to promote itself (in violation of our

The thing about COI is that it causes bias and that leads to content that fails our

You are clearly a EE expert. Wikipedia highly values contributions by subject matter experts; at the same time, experts have some special challenges here - especially when they come here to write about their companies. Please see the essay with advice for experts,

So... as in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review.

• Disclosure first. You are editing under your real name. And you clearly work for BEM. This actually makes you what we call a "paid editor" and you have been editing in violation of the Terms of Use here. That is a serious thing, Fred.

You can fix this. The first thing is to make your COI disclosure complete by adding something like the following to your Userpage -- User:Fklatt:

I work for Best Electric Machine which makes motors and other devices related to electric vehicles, the grid, 3-D printing, etc. Here is a list of articles I have directly edited in the past that are related to BEM's businesses:

• 3D printing
• Doubly fed electric machine
• Singly fed electric machine
• Smart grid
• Synchronous motor
• List of traction motor manufacturers
• Electric machine
• Electric motor
• AC motor
• Brushless electric motor
• Superconducting electric machine
• DC motor
• Brushed DC electric motor
• Permanent magnet synchronous generator
• Wind turbine

Something like that. That would take care of the disclosure part. Would you please add that, or something like it, to your user page? Thanks.

• The other step is peer review. We ask editors who have a COI to refrain from directly editing content where they have a COI, but rather, propose content at the relevant article's Talk page. You can do that easily - and provide notice to the community of your request - by using the "edit request" function as described in the
  conflict of interest guideline
  . I made that easy for you by adding a section to the bottom of the beige box at the top of the Talk pages where you have a COI - there is a link at "click here" in that section -- if you click that, the Wikipedia software will automatically format a section in which you can make your request. What that does, is it gives everybody a chance to review the content to make sure it is NPOV and well-sourced. No drama.

Another way we do peer review, is that we ask editors who create articles, who have a COI with regard to topics in the article, to a) put the article through the

Also, we prefer if editors refrain from citing their own work here - it is a big temptation, we know, but again that becomes a form of self-promotion. Please see

Will you please agree to do those three peer review steps going forward?

Please do answer those two questions I have bolded. You can reply here, and you if you have any questions or want to discuss anything you can reply with those too - I am watching this page. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 05:04, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See Talk:3D printing#Conflict of interest editing. It looks like he is now making a good-faith effort to follow our COI rules, but he is still treating Wikipedia like some website where you do X, Y and Z and your edit gets published. I am trying to get him to understand that he needs to engage us in a discussion. --Guy Macon (talk) 14:04, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Macon, I am confused, do you want me to start a dialogue with you? I assume this is the way to do it. I'd prefer a telephone or e-mail conversation that is more user user friendly for me. I am not confident about my communication Wikipedia style. Best Regards,Fklatt (talk) 19:42, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I do not believe you have a problemt with 'communication Wikipedia style'. I believe that you do not (or do not want to) grasp the fact that Wikipedia is not for advertising yourself, your company, or your company's products or technology. Confict of Interest is easy to understand: you do not edit or create topics you are closely involved with where your editing is not neutral and/or can be viewed as being promotional. Even though you have been aound on Wikipedia for a very long time, your failure to apparently understand these issues will unfotunately eventually lead to you being blocked. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:32, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To expand on what Kudpung wrote above (which I agree with), communicating "Wikipedia style" is not optional. Either you learn how to be a productive member of the Wikipedia community (which includes answering reasonable questions you are asked), or you get blocked from editing Wikipedia. Your choice. --Guy Macon (talk) 00:37, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The reviewers are misguided. I said I understand your COI concerns (as I always did) but I do not understand (unfamiliar with) the formalities (mechanism) of navigating the Wikipedia blog process. Your zealotry made you think I was poopoo you and totally missed my point. But that's my fault. Now, please undo the removal of 3D Printing of "electric motors and generators" (without the United Techologies blurb, although unlike you, I as a pioneer found their information technically useful). Like the automobiles, apparel, etc. topics in this section, 3d printing of electric motors and generators have a particular unusual characteristic, which is hostile to 3d Printing and needs technical comment (which is why Wikipedia excels beyond all others). By the way until commercially popular, new technology is done by a few pioneers and they (and their efforts) should be conveniently mentioned in wiki. This is not marketing but Wikipedia "promotional" knowledge (why do you think researchers in particular use wikipeida): otherwise, researchers could go to other encyclopedias that only talk about the past, poopoo). If you don't understand this, then Wikipedia will be doomed by your ignorance. I added lots of important (non-commercial but technically "promotional") info to Wikipedia, which now has a diverse technical following beyond the few in the past (but you will not find this in other encyclopedia). Block me if you wish but with the course you are taking, you will eventually have to block all your pioneering contributors. Please get off of your collectivist bandwagon and think "promotional" innovation for all our sakes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fklatt (talk • contribs) 14:49, 6 July 2015(UTC)

Fred, quick note. Part of the etiquette of Wikipedia - as basic here as "please" and "thank you" - is signing your posts, and indenting them so that comments are threaded. To indent one "tab", put one colon  : at the beginning of your post; in order to indent two tabs, put two colons at the start of your post, etc. The Wikipedia software converts each colon into a tab. This threads comments so that it is clear to whom you are responding. To "sign" your posts, type exactly four tildas ~~~~ at the end of your post. The Wikipedia sofware turns the four tildas into links to your user page and talk page and adds a date stamp - this doesn't work if you type three or five tildas - it needs to be exactly four. Please indent and sign your posts going forward. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 15:10, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Fred -- responding to the substance of what you wrote above, please read the important policy document,

a vehicle for promotion. It is very much "in the box." I hope you can see that. Like we have all written, WP loves experts and I for one hope you can get oriented to WP's mission. I hope that makes sense. Jytdog (talk) 15:19, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Hi Jytdog, I understand completely and will follow Wikipedia rules. After your friendly explanation, I am embarrassed to say that it was me that became the ranter and the zealot of which I just talked about. Please forgive me.Fklatt (talk) 23:51, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jytdog, I do have an important request. Could you please revert the "3d Printing->industrial applications" back to the subject with "electric motors and generators." Like the apparel, automobiles, aircraft, etc. topics, electric motors and generators have peculiar structure and materials that are hostile to traditional 3d printing, which is Wikipedia knowledge. You may or may not choose to revert the United Technologies' paragraph in accordance with Wikipedia's etiquette; however, if you also revert the United Techologies' paragraph then Wikipedia should allow competitive information about others doing research (and their method) in this area.Fklatt (talk) 00:05, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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You have come back and continued to directly edit articles about your company's products. Please take the following seriously - the next time you do this I will seek to have you banned from Wikipedia for abusing it per

I was the one of the article pioneers on doubly-fed electric machine for Wikipedia with over 30 years of experience. Now, I am pretty disappointed in Wikipedia. Technical ignorance in this area (electric machines) by your editors is overwhelming. Everything I have given Wikipedia is pertinent technical information. My information (or others) has never been advertisement, except to some wikipedia editors who still think the world is flat (and will not seek technical expertise to understand the subject matter that they are lacking). If you ban me, please return my donation or is wiki editors those that accept donations under false premises! It is pretty obvious the subjectivity when editors use pseudonyms instead of real names (as I do). Fklatt (talk) 14:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We love experts here, but not when they add unsourced content or use Wikipedia to promote their own businesses. You are doing both. Please stop. And I will repeat, if you keep doing those things, you are going to end up banned from this topic. Please stop. Jytdog (talk) 14:42, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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