User talk:Havelock Jones
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In the circumstances, a welcome template seems redundant; but you've boldly dared the quaking bogs, morasses and abysses of Great Goddesses and their like. Kudos for clarity and scholarly rigour! Haploidavey (talk) 15:38, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you: I took heart from your having cleared away some of the denser thickets from around Gaia.Havelock Jones (talk) 15:52, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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I am working on updating the Occupy Movement and other related articles, and back in 2014 you suggested that the page needed updating. I appreciate any insight you have to offer on improvements. Can I ask what you would like to see updated in order for the notice at the top to be removed? I hope that you can get back to me in a timely manner as my project is due this coming Saturday.
Thank you!Zootberg (talk) 20:55, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
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Orchid RM
Hi Havelock Jones, thanks for closing the RM at Talk:Orchidaceae#Requested_move_17_August_2021. However, I disagree with your close. A lot of the opposes said something along the lines of "orchids can mean other things". I think those !votes should be discounted because the status quo is that the plant family is already the primary topic for "orchid". The main other opposing argument was WP:CONSISTENCY. However, other editors and me showed many examples of plant taxons using the vernacular name, like cactus, fern and oak. The main policy to consider is NCFLORA, which says to use the vernacular name when the plant has agricultural, horticultural, economic or cultural role or use that makes it more prominent in some other field than in botany
. To sum up, I think considering the policy and strength of the arguments the consensus is in favour of the move. Vpab15 (talk) 11:03, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- In my judgment, "orchids can mean other things" is a statement that the proposed new title was not WP:PRIMARY, but it doesn't follow that it precisely scopes the article. Some editors considered it did and other editors considered it didn't, so there was no consensus.Havelock Jones (talk) 11:12, 20 September 2021 (UTC)]
- I don't think WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is that there is no need for disambiguation. Vpab15 (talk) 11:25, 20 September 2021 (UTC)]
- There is no disambiguation, since there's a primary redirect. A user searching for "Orchid" will arrive the right place. I understand that you think some opposing editors were making an irrelevant point, but that is not how I read their comments. You made this point during the RM, but you did not convice the opposing editors to change their position. Of course you can take the matter to WP:MR, but to me the discussion very clearly reached no consensus. Havelock Jones (talk) 11:36, 20 September 2021 (UTC)]
- There is no disambiguation, since there's a primary redirect. A user searching for "Orchid" will arrive the right place. I understand that you think some opposing editors were making an irrelevant point, but that is not how I read their comments. You made this point during the RM, but you did not convice the opposing editors to change their position. Of course you can take the matter to
- I don't think
Move review for Orchidaceae
An editor has asked for a
I am concerned about your RM closing. I recommend two.
1. At the end of your comments mark your signature.
2. Under your RM closing comments use horizontal rules.
See your edition Special:Permalink/1045762881. Many were confused. Who did write comments from "This is an unusual" to "(non-admin closure)"? What was the request details? I expect that User:Paine Ellsworth is of the same opinion per [1]. I want you to understand some circumstances. Regards. Sawol (talk) 18:15, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- I have worked out what the problem is: I was doing:
{{subst:RM top|'''result'''}}Blah blah blah.{{subst:RMnac}}
but I need the first pair of closing braces to move to end, thus:{{subst:RM top|'''result'''Blah blah blah.{{subst:RMnac}}}}
Thank you for correcting so many of my errors. I have done the few you missed, so I hope it looks ok now. Havelock Jones (talk) 20:54, 24 September 2021 (UTC)- I'm also very thankful for editors like ed. put'r there 02:21, 25 September 2021 (UTC)]
- I'm also very thankful for editors like
Haurun
Hey thanks for that change [| right here] at
Page mover?
Hi. Since you have engaged recently in closing a lot of Requested Moves, I urge you to apply for the
Disambiguation tool DisamAssist
Hi, thanks for closing Micrometer RM. Not sure if you are aware, but there is a tool called DisamAssist that I find very helpful to fix dab links when an existing article is moved to a dab page. It can be found User:Qwertyytrewqqwerty/DisamAssist. Hope it helps. Vpab15 (talk) 15:29, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Vpab15. It did quite a long time to fix the links (and I noticed you fixed two I missed, for which thanks), so I'll take a look. Havelock Jones (talk) 17:28, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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Rename page Abenobashi Terminal Building to Abeno Harukas
Hello, I noticed you closed the discussion to
- I'm not sure what, if anything, you're asking me to do. If you have sources which show that the article subject is usually known in English as Abeno Harukas, I suggest you open a fresh RM. Havelock Jones (talk) 02:15, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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