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Could you briefly say what you think about that? Just have a Kindergarden edit war with Tobi999tomas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Walking_Dead_(season_11) --TheKerberos01 (talk) 17:16, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Read WP:FANCRUFT, entire plot summaries for multiple characters isn't necessary. Having a brief description about a character's role is necessary, but keyword: brief. If it goes over a paragraph per season, it's too long. Explaining the entire seasons multiple times isn't necessary, especially when the episode pages do it just fine. There is also the fact that some of what I removed were arbitary unimportant quotes (like Max's zoomer remarks), or claiming Will is confirmed gay when it's not confirmed yet and his actor stated that he wasn't (I saw how people saw Will as gay in that scene, but given that we have an interview stating the contrary it shouldn't be stated as fact until 100% confirmed). Unnamed anon (talk) 18:08, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I don’t understand why you removed the summaries and images. There's no rules on what can and cannot be included in the lead on season pages. I've seen many that contain summaries and images of players. 185.213.212.242 (talk) 14:50, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see you recently added a character that isn't in a song of ice and fire back into the list of characters. If you would like to readd them, could you provide a source that they are a character in the series? Ser Duncan wasn't in the books, and died before its events in a second set of novels not named a song of ice and fire. Thanks for not mixing franchises further. A song of ice and fire should have been a trilogy (talk) 14:25, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The character still originated from the ASOIAF novels, though only by mentions instead of appearances, but that still makes him an ASOIAF character. And I don't understand why you're saying that we're "mixing" franchises. The Hedge Knight is still the same franchise. There's also a couple of other characters from The Tales of Dunk and Egg, so Duncan isn't the only one. I don't see any reason to remove him. IronMaximus (talk) 06:11, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"If someone only appears in one or two episodes of a season, then it's wrong to list them as recurring for that season", what? We aren't marking them down per season. The cast section is reflecting the series as a whole. You make one or two appearances throughout the series, that's a guest appearance. You make multiple appearances as the same character throughout the show's run, you are recurring. Ellie Taylor has appeared four times as Sassy. That is a recurring role, why are you forcing her back into the guest section? Rusted AutoParts 21:28, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, we are marking them down per season. Look at the cast sections of other TV shows. Ellie Taylor may be recurring throughout the show but she has never been a recurring character within one season. If someone was a recurring actor in season one and then got promoted to the main cast in season two, then we also wouldn't write "main role seasons 1-2", we would list them as a recurring character for season one and then as a main character in season two. Imagine if we did a cast table for the show (similiar to List of Game of Thrones characters and many other character lists), there is one cast table for the main cast and one for the recurring cast. Would we add Ellie Taylor into the recurring cast table? No, we wouldn't because she's never been a recurring character within one season. Now instead of cast tables we have the cast section on the main page of the table, split into main, recurring and guest characters. If we put Ellie Taylor into the recurring cast section, then that would make it seem as if she's been a recurring character in both seasons, but that's not the case, she's a guest character in both seasons, so she belongs in the guest cast section. IronMaximus (talk) 07:43, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're missing my point. Look at Breaking Bad's cast section, in particular it's Recurring. Let's isolate Tina Parker as an example. Her involvement in a given season may only span 1 episode or two, but overall as she made so many cumulative appearances (9 in total), she was inherently a recurring character. The caveats for additions to the main cast are appropriately noted as such too. Jonathan Banks was merely a guest in the second season but became main in the third. That's when it's appropriate to note their status when they haven't been around since the start, or left before end of the series/didnt appear in seasons before the end. Objectively speaking, Sassy is a recurring character. She has made multiple appearances in the show and keeping her in Guest is just patently incorrect. Rusted AutoParts 07:57, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On the Breaking Bad page two episodes within one season are already counted as recurring, that's why Tina Parker is also included in the recurring cast table on List of characters in the Breaking Bad franchise. It varies from article to article, some count 2 as recurring, some 3 or even 4. With Ted Lasso we went with 3 episodes. And I don't think that I miss your point. Yes, Sassy recurs throughout the show, but if we put her into the recurring cast section, then that would make it seem as if she has been a recurring character in every season, but that's not the case. She has never been a recurring character in a season, so she belongs in the guest section. IronMaximus (talk) 09:10, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I really think you are considering you’re still saying she doesn’t count as recurring. The cast section on the main show page NEEDS to reflect what goes on throughout the show, and tally cast appearances in an accurate way. You present a Main, Recurring and Guest section. Like I have said when someone is only appearing once or twice throughout the show, that’s a guest role. When a character makes frequent appearances throughout the show’s run, that’s recurring. 2 appearances in season one, 2 in season 2. In what universe does that not constitute someone being a recurring cast member? Rusted AutoParts 23:51, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Because the cast section is marked down per season. That's how it's done per

WP:TVCAST. I don't know how else to explain it than with the cast table example. If we did a recurring cast table and a guest cast table (e.g. X-Files, Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy), then Ellie Taylor would be included in the guest cast table. IronMaximus (talk) 06:10, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply

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I can understand your removal about Dev, but I fail to see how insights about what is plausible or not about the technology in For All Mankind is just “trivia and theory”. These are very interesting things for space enthusiasts watching the show (we have intense discussions about this at work and with friends), to know what is real or not, plausible or not. Furthermore I added links that helps the reader know more about stuff like the Sea Dragon. The creators of the show give interviews about this, so the topic is legit. How is it "just trivia and theories"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Comacque (talk • contribs) 13:09, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop reverting my grammatical changes. Thank you. Nearly but not perfect (talk) 21:09, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I already explained why I removed it for the French football team article. You know why. It was unsourced. Nearly but not perfect (talk) 16:09, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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A one season show doesn't need a cast table

Forgive me, but does a one season show like

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