User talk:Joe Decker/Archive 14

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Discussion about the RfD process
  • Discussion about Notability of Wikisource on Wikidata
  • Open RfAs: Lymantria, Lavallen
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Wikidata reached 100000000 edits
  • d:User:Dexbot is the first bot to reach 10000000 edits
  • Wikisource is due to receive Wikidata Phase 1 on January the 14th
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: none
  • Newest task forces: MediaWiki task force
  • Showcase items: Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (Q309988)
  • Fun Fact: According to Wikidata, this is the year of 2004 (Q2014)
• DevelopmentWord from John
  • To give this section some life, since the development team had their holidays last week meaning nothing really got done (let them have one week off at least), I'll say a few words. 2014 is a new year and thus a new start, over the last year Wikidata celebrated its first birthday which brought reflection over what Wikidata had accomplish. Therefore I want to use the start of 2014 to reflect what Wikidata can do. For my personal over view see this page. For the summary, while it is meant to be a weekly simple update, I feel this can be used a lot more effective to put across not only what happened on Wikidata but things about Wikidata on other wikis, I am hoping to start a section over this within the next few weeks. If you have any suggestions for the summary, feel free to drop me a message at meta or Wikidata. Thanks.
• Monthly Tasks
  • Fix a format or content violation for the Public holiday (P832) propery
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 21:50, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Did you know?

VisualEditor's toolbar has a new drop-down menu that contains all character formatting: bold, italics, subscript, superscript, strikethrough, computer code, underline, and the ability to remove all formatting from text.

For more information about how to use VisualEditor, read

the user guide

.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some toolbar improvements, fixing bugs, and improving support for Indic languages as well as other languages with complex characters. The current focus is on improving the reference dialog and expanding the new character inserter tool.

There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:

• Rich copying and pasting is now available. If you copy text from another website, then character formatting and some other HTML attributes are preserved. This means, for example, that if you copy a pre-formatted suggested citation from a source like this, then VisualEditor will preserve the formatting of the title in the citation. Keep in mind that copying the formatting may include formatting that you don't want (like section headings). If you want to paste plain, unformatted text onto a page, then use Control+⇧ Shift+V or ⌘ Command+⇧ Shift+V (Mac).
• Auto-numbered external links like [1] can now be edited just like any other link. However, they cannot be created in VisualEditor easily.
• Several changes to the toolbar and dialogs have been made, and more are on the way. The toolbar has been simplified with a new drop-down text styles menu and an "insert" menu. Your feedback on the toolbar is wanted here. The transclusion/template dialog has been simplified. If you have enabled mathematical formula editing, then the menu item is now called the formula editor instead of LaTeX.
• There is a new character inserter, which you can find in the new "insert" menu, with a capital Omega ("Ω"). It's a very basic set of characters. Your feedback on the character inserter is wanted here.
• Saving the page should seem faster by several seconds now.
• It is now possible to access VisualEditor by manually editing the URL, even if you are not logged in or have not opted in to VisualEditor normally.  To do so, append ?veaction=edit to the end of the page name.  For example, change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random?veaction=edit to open a random page in VisualEditor.  This is intended to support bug testing across multiple browsers, without requiring editors to login repeatedly.

Looking ahead: The transclusion dialog will see further changes in the coming weeks, with a simple mode for single templates and an advanced mode for more complex transclusions. The new character formatting menu on the toolbar will get an arrow to show that it is a drop-down menu. The reference dialog will be improved, and the Reference item will become a button in the main toolbar, rather than an item in the Insert menu.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:42, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello again! Please see

	Best wishes
	for the holidays and 2014 from a warmer place than where you probably are ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:09, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Discussion over the notability of the new Draft namespace on the English Wikipedia
  • Discussion over the notability of template documentation items
  • RfC: Notability of item for all special pages
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Wikisource is still scheduled to get language links via Wikidata on January 14th
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: NLM ID, NDL editions
  • Showcase items: Douglas Adams
  • Fun Fact: The Mayan calendar (Q2012) did not correctly predict the end of the world nor the end of Q items as Wikidata (Q2013) went on to host Wikipedia links this year.
• Development
  • Happy Holidays from the dev team! Have a great time and continue being awesome ;-)
  • Improved and added a lot of tests
  • Worked on displaying qualifiers in the non-JavaScript UI
  • No longer displaying the table of contents from item/property pages if there would be less than 3 entries in it
  • Caching and database improvements
  • Worked on preventing the import of wikitext into the main and property namespace
  • More work on quantities UI
• Open Tasks for You
  • Update, expand and translate d:Wikidata:Introduction to make it easier for newcomers to understand what Wikidata is all about.
  • Use the rails, help out the Railways task force!
  • Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
  • Build a bot for one of the "bot requests".
  • Hack on one of these.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 13:12, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

08:22, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Discussion over handling of items
  • RfC: Interwiki links for subpages (Notability based discussion)
  • Closed: Inactive administrators
  • Closed: Bot policy
  • Closed RfA: Matěj Suchánek (Successful)
  • Open RfA: GerardM
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Add the file and translate namespaces to the list of namespaces excluded from Wikibase Client's linking functionality and enable the "Add links" dialog for pages without language links on commons. (#58903)
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: chromosome, produces
• Development
  • Redesign and improvement of toollabs:bene/itemsbycat/. You can also use short urls like toollabs:bene/itemsbycat/enwiki/Wikidata.
  • Worked on reorganizing our git repositories and splitting quite a few of them
  • Worked more on parser cache to be able to cache more content (this failed during the last deployment)
  • Some progress on redirects
  • Tests, tests, tests
  • Vacations \o/
• Monthly Tasks
  • Fix a format or content violation for the Public holiday (P832) propery
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Help translate on of Bene*'s tools!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 23:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

08:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

	Happy New Year!
	Hello Joe Decker: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, BusterD (talk) 06:44, 1 January 2014 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{ subst:Happy New Year 2014 }} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

08:35, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Joe Decker. It has been over six months since you last edited your

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. TKK! bark with me! 11:31, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Joe Decker, Could you take a look at the new draft for Randy Gage, here—User:Johnmoor/Randy Gage draft, please? Thank you. —JOHNMOORofMOORLAND (talk) 18:37, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Joe, I've tried submitting the article again and this time there are links to more verifiable press. ie links to SF gate (which is the online version of the San Francisco Chronicle - they did a feature story on her), as well as a link to the Sacramento News and Review. She has also been on News 10 (CBS), in Sacramento thru the Bay Area with clips of her testimony to the Victims Compensation Board, the day they changed the regulation that she and others were fighting for. A big win for those in the industry. I can write more about that if you like as it did hit national news, kristen's being the closing testimony. You can find the news footage on the net. If this is not enough, I have just heard that NPR is getting ready to interview her about the industry and what is going on. Will a NPR story count? Thanks for all your help Joe. I know this is controversial, but times are changing and many are starting to look at this as an equal rights fight. She and the others who testified last month were backed by the ACLU. So let me know if we are getting any closer. Thanks so much, James — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjohnson jj77 (talk • contribs) 22:13, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Discussion over Wikisource's notability within Wikidata
  • Make Symmetric & Inverse Property addition automatic and bidirectional
  • Closed RfAs: Lymantria (Successful), Lavallen (Successful)
• Events/Press/Blogs
  • Presentation about Wikidata at Aldil, Lyon, France
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Wikisource is deployed to testwikidata
  • A group of students is working on suggestions to make it easier to add missing information. They published a status report and a rough first demo.
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: track gauge, pathogen transmission process, CVR, ERA Journal ID
  • Newest task forces: Manga and Anime task force
  • Showcase items: Douglas Adams
  • Fun Fact: Does not exist (Q404)
  • Wikidata's presence: The Dutch Wikipedia have a category for coordinating coordinates on Wikidata (Categorie:Wikipedia:Coördinaten niet op Wikidata)
• Development
  • Adrian Lang joins the team
  • Cirrus Search is now the default search on Wikidata and should improve d:Special:Search's handlich of special characters for example
  • Made the “in other languages” box also show up for people who have not configured a babel box (bugzilla:49079)
  • No longer showing a table of content when it has less than 3 items in it to prevent it from showing up on property pages (bugzilla:58422)
  • More performance improvement work
  • Finishing touches on quantities datatype user interface
  • Display qualifiers in non-Java Script user interface
  • Prevented import of wikitext into the main namespace (bugzilla:47070)
  • Split the DataValues component into more clearly defined libraries and switched Wikibase over to use these
  • Switched Wikibase to use Wikibase DataModel 0.6
  • Changed development and installation workflows to make use of the dependency manager Composer (more details)
  • Made tests run with less warnings (especially in Firefox)
  • Started replacing wikibase.fetchedEntities with a proper entity store
• Monthly Tasks
  • Fix a format or content violation for the Public holiday (P832) propery
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 09:34, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

ϢereSpielChequers is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{

subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec13

}} to your friends' talk pages.

THanks!  :) --j⚛e decker^talk 22:55, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Joe. I notice you haven't edited for a while, maybe you're busy so there's no urgency about this. I recently discovered that there are 860 totally unsourced BLPs. I started to check out a few at random and found them to be prior BLPROD so I PRODed them after searching for sources. Then I remembered the drive you spearheaded some time back to clean up backlogs of unsourced BLPs. IMO, 860 unsourced BLP are 860 too many, and most of what I saw would probably not survive an AfD either. Perhaps it's time to initiate another drive just to keep the content of the cat down. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:39, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry I've been so absent, a couple back-to-back artist residencies have left me travelling quite a bit since last fall.

I do it'd be great to start an effort like that. I'm hoping to be back in the US by 2 Feb, and hopefully past jet lag and this and that within a few days afterward. --j⚛e decker^talk 22:59, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Nice to see you back online Joe! Kudpung, perhaps it's time to revive Wikipedia:Unreferenced BLP Rescue?--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 23:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Great to hear from you as well! Between Antarctica last year and the current month in Iceland, I am *so* ready to be home where it's warm and I have a little more free time.  :) --j⚛e decker^talk 23:07, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Discussion about using 'instance of' specific for animals
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Next Wikidata IRC office hour on Monday, February 3rd
  • FOSDEM
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • The Wikidata Development Plan for 2014+ has been published
  • Wikidata stats now also includes statistics for ranks
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: ICTV virus ID, rector, fictional analog of, writable file format, readable file format, place made
  • Showcase items: Cactaceae
• Development
  • Daniel and Katie took part in the MediaWiki Architecture Summit in San Francisco
  • Bugzilla:60027 Add language to label and description field to make it less likely that people enter a label or description in a wrong language
  • Bugzilla:58394 Avoid throwing out of bounds error when adding new claims
  • Bugzilla:50570 API now reveals qualifier hashes
  • Bugzilla:57213 API now reveals data type ids
  • Bugzilla:57754 Die if wbeditentity tries to clear from an old revision id
  • Bugzilla:55795 Add API option to show snaks in a list rather than grouped by property
  • Refactor of ChangeOp remove functionality
  • Continued to move parsing and validating of values from the frontend into the backend to improve performance and make the non-JS user interface more useful
  • Finished the Wikidata build script (We use it to pull together code from various git repositories into a single one for deployment)
• Monthly Tasks
  • Fix a format or content violation for the belongs to jurisdiction (P1001) property
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 23:57, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

The Low Countries as seen from space Hello, Joe Decker. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement 's weekly selection: Low Countries Previous selections: Gopher (animal) Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of Evad37 (talk) 01:54, 27 January 2014 (UTC) • Opt-out instructions

09:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Some good edits, some bad. It still needs more protection time. --George Ho (talk) 07:59, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

(from the talk page of Persecution...) Changing the title to Persecution of the LGBT community in Nazi Germany and the Holocaust Would recognise in the title that which is recognised in the body text that bisexuals were also persecuted, Whilst the wider transgender community being more visible were the intial targets For example the most of used record of Nazi book burning is actually Hirschfelds Libary being burnt and in the process a signicant loss of transgender history.

It is important to recognise that where we see diffreneces betweeen the LGBT communities in other times their wasn't this seperation being all lumped together. So what was then called "congenital invert" and now called

I would do it but all by books are currently packed away and it is important that it is correctly cited X-mass (talk) 10:41, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Discussion over P31 as a qualifier
  • Open RfA: Sjoerddebruin
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Wikidata is at FOSDEM in Brussels, Februrary 1st-2nd
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Quantities released on Wikidata!
  • Wikisource phase 2 coming Februrary 25th.
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: attendance, refractive index, electronegativity, proportion, sandbox-quantity, number of pages, number of platforms , flattening, floors above ground, number of cylinders, masts, number of speakers, g-factor, orbital eccentricity, gross tonnage, total produced, redshift, Mohs' hardness, ELO rating, atomic number, LibraryThing work identifier, EUL control number, capacity, population, Human Development Index, from narrative, launch contractor, valvetrain configuration, KOATUU identifier
• Development
  • Deployed quantities to Wikidata! :)
  • Made patch to make wbmergeitems more reliable Bugzilla::55960
  • Wikidata edit permissions now included in wikimedia OAuth edit groups
  • Moved Diff repo to Github
  • Work put into make the frontend use backend formatters through the api
  • Refactoring of the ValueView extension
  • MergeItems special page merged as an experimental feature
  • Our easy RDF fork is now included using composer
  • Fixed wbmergeitems issues
• Monthly Tasks
  • Fix a format or content violation for the belongs to jurisdiction (P1001) property
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 23:37, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

08:30, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi there! About three years ago, u indefinitely semi-protected the

 Done -- That went to indef. semi after having been part of the original pending changes trial, and I think it's quite possible that the article won't be trouble going forward. I see you've done some editing there, do let me or another admin know if the article attracts a problematic types of or levels of vandalism, particularly BLP stuff. Thanks! --j⚛e decker^talk 05:49, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

How does it feel to be, you know, warm again? The backlogs are just as long as before you left...

Thanks! It's nice to be not only warm, but to not have to spend fifteen minutes getting dressed, or to worry about near-hurricane force winds. I'm so sticking around home the next few months, sorting through and printing work. Now, right, how do I delete the main page again? --j⚛e decker^talk 18:36, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Sounds very relaxing and deserved. I recently spent a few hours here. Highly recommended! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:10, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

That looks amazing! --j⚛e decker^talk 05:09, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

THANK YOU for your action on the Timothy C. Draper article. As it was before I tried to do some editing on it, it read like a viral marketing piece. I had to laugh though at the article. In it Draper takes credit for inventing "Viral Marketing" , even though MCI used viral marketing ten years before he invented it. And there were all those accolades and titles, repeated and repeated. Anyway, thank you. Sjkoblentz (talk) 01:25, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

No problem. It was likely simply cut-and-pasted from a previous corporate bio, which is fine for that sort of thing, but not really appropriate for a biography here. To be fair, we don't make that very clear to folks, and we were even worse about that in '07. --j⚛e decker^talk 01:53, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi! The subject article was deleted as BLPPROD on 21st Feb and was today recreated by User:Babitaarora. The user has also done a good job of providing many RS about the subject in the article itself. Can you please check if the old article is worth restoring back; looking at the history as well as the content of it? The article seems to have not been transcluded at the Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Article alerts. Or else i would have de-PRODed it. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 09:45, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

I've restored the old versions, they're in the history now. I don't know if you'll find the content there helpful, but you're welcome to take a look. Thanks! --j⚛e decker^talk 14:11, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Sometimes its easier to look for RS about "claimed" info than hunting for info from scratch. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 14:45, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

My pleasure! There's also an ESWIKI article on him that I've restored the link to, I don't think it has much that isn't already in the article, but maybe you'll see something. --j⚛e decker^talk 14:53, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Joe, I was just browsing the coyote entry, and this sentence under reproduction obviously should say coyotes, not wolves "Coyotes also practice alloparental care, in which a wolf pair adopts the pup or pups of another pair"

Of course I would do the edit myself, but I've mostly done anon edits, so I am not able to. Since you've locked it, you might want to fix that sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kristal9 (talk • contribs) 05:11, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Done! If I'm not around, a note on the talk page there will often do it as well, you can use {{request edit}} to attract attention to the request. You've been here a while, from what I see, make another dozen good edits or so and you should be able to edit that article directly. Sorry for the trouble! --j⚛e decker^talk 05:25, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Joe, Thanks for your work and advice. Please, as you advised could you change the page to 'Flax weevil'. Markanderson72 (talk) 10:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done My pleasure, and thanks for contributing to the encyclopedia! Let me know if I can ever be of assistance. Cheers, --j⚛e decker^talk 15:55, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello Joe Decker. It has been over six months since you last edited your

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Hasteur (talk) 16:28, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, but not mine. I simply fixed the comment error that was hiding the text of the draft. --j⚛e decker^talk 16:31, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

You thanking me got me to take another look at this as I was never 100% happy with it, but now I am. On a second look I think I may have read too much into that statement on the source, because although the book itself is taken from wikipedia it was less clear the description was. However this edit makes it clear the text evolved here so I now no longer have any nagging uncertainty. Dpmuk (talk) 23:17, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

I really hadn't checked for the reverse copying as much as I should have, thanks for doing the real legwork! --j⚛e decker^talk 00:31, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback on my article! I updated my citations, eliminating IMDb and NNDB and substituting more reliable sources. Thanks again! Chancewriter (talk) 21:55, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome, thank you for your contributions! --j⚛e decker^talk 00:37, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi. You made an edit with a summary saying that you were removing poorly sourced claims, but it doesn't look like your edit changed anything. —Largo Plazo (talk) 20:28, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Well, that's interesting. I was attempting to remove the information that GabrielF had removed in the previous edit. I probably pulled up the version previous to GabrielF's edit, after Solarlive's edit, and made the correction from there. That was not very skillful of me, but the result is correct in any case. --j⚛e decker^talk 22:32, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

@Joe Decker Can you please explain in rational terms how a journalist standing in front of a blue screen pretending to be in Saudi Arabia when he clearly is NOT, is somehow "poorly sourced"? You are not allowed to have your own facts, Joe Decker...Solarlive (talk) 20:16, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Yes. First, it's a video, and we don't know the provenence. Photoshop.

Second, do you think there are no blue screens in Saudi Arabia?

That's not the big issue, though. The text didn't just say "blue screen", the text said that CNN lied about it (or implied it), and had a pattern of doing so. Establishing the former would require at least some hint of CNN suggesting otherwise, and because of our strict

WP:NOR

policy, might require a reliable third party source actually talking about it as a "lie"/"falsfication". (The word you used appears to have been "faked".) The claim about a pattern, well, that's entirely unproven by the source, it's editorialzing.

With regard to this, I urge you to ask for a third opinion at

WP:RSN

.

Your editing record suggests that you are here with an

WP:AGENDA, and you might be surprised to find that I'm sympathetic to a portion of it. But I've also been here for many years, I'm quite familiar with the policies involved, and you've continuingly been over the line. Your assertions that particular public figures are "psychopaths" without citation, for example, in most cases would have been an excuse for me to block you without warning. You are way past the line of behavior that will allow you to continue editing here, and I'd recommend you pull back, take a deep breath, and review the policies I and other editors have linked for your repeatedly over the past months. You would do more good for your cause if you would learn to work within Wikipedia policies. --j⚛e decker^talk

20:37, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

@Joe It's not just one video, this has been widely discussed and examined. They show an American staff and they are clearly in a TV studio. Even if the set was located in Saudi Arabia, the obvious question would be why use a blue screen at all. I don't have any agenda except bringing the truth to the people. If Wikipedia takes an overly conservative approach, then that's not a feature, it's a bug to be fixed. Same as when editors are too lazy to determine whether a source is credible or a fact is established. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solarlive (talk • contribs) 00:15, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

THis has been widely discussed, but I don't see where it has been discussed on sources that meet

WP:RSN

. I'd would be delighted to be proven wrong there, but I think they're going to laugh you out of the place if you pull out Alex Jones as a source about what is and isn't true.

It is tempting to continue sparring with you about whether or not the primary mission of Wikipedia is a bug or a feature, but we're never going to change what Wikipedia is, and

is not, here, and I'm not really interested in wasting my time trying. If I didn't believe strongly in Wikipedia's core missions, I would not put so much effort here as I have over the past nine years. I doubt I would have done so if Wikipedia had been more open to weaker evidence, but if that's what you're looking for, might I suggest Wikia? --j⚛e decker^talk

15:19, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

The primary mission as you call it of Wikipedia should not be to obfuscate the truth and promote official dogma by labeling every idea that the establishment doesn't like as "fringe". I don't see anything in your or Gabriel's claims that is any more enlightened or courageous or intelligent than the abuse and nonsense thrown at Galileo by the Vatican. You have your official truth supported by Argument from authority illogic and everything else is "conspiracy theories" that are automatically suspect. Solarlive (talk) 00:58, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

--ItIsTheRealist (talk) 22:08, 18 March 2014 (UTC) Hope I am leaving a response correctly. New to this coding/wiki editing, I apologize if this doesn't look correct. I work directly for/with Nigel, and he recommended I use that for his Bio. Would I have to have G-Shock okay it?

In part, yes. The process and a fuller explanation of it is Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Since anything added to Wikipedia is licensed in such a way that anyone in the future will be able to use it for any purposes whatsoever, you'd need to contact our volunteer response team as it describes in the article I just linked and show you're entitled to license away that material. You may want to consider whether that's a good idea, though, not only because of the issue that it woudl allow other entities beside Wikipedia to use it.

The other issue is that it's likely that you'll get some pushback, even if copyright is dealt with, on that text. Wikipedia has a bunch of policies about trying to keep articles to a

Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. I hope that's helpful! --j⚛e decker^talk

22:21, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

--ItIsTheRealist (talk) 22:38, 18 March 2014 (UTC) Okay cool, I will deff look into that. I appreciate it. Maybe, it would be just easier to write something original and not already copy-written from an endorsement he has?

That's what I usually recommend, yeah.  :) Thanks for understanding! --j⚛e decker^talk 03:12, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I notice that you had already delete the page of AFC U-14 Championship, I understand your action. However, this tournament had already set up by AFC, please see this web link. (AFC U-14 C'ship 2014: Group stage opponents known, website: http://www.the-afc.com/en/tournaments/men/afc-u14-championship.html) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Younis7435 (talk • contribs) 02:54, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

The issue identified by editors participating in that discussion was that the article did not meet our

general notability guideline, which is a pretty key policy around here. The issue isn't whether the participants have been chosen, the issue is the presence, or in this case absense, of arm's length news coverage of the event. It is more likely that that coverage will exist once the championship has begun, and the article can be recreated once that sort of coverage exists. --j⚛e decker^talk

03:12, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Joe, Thanks for the feedback. I have made some additional changes and added external references. Let me know if that addresses the guideline on notability. The article is still in the sandbox section. Jean-Francois — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jflabourdette (talk • contribs) 12:07, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

With respect to notabiliy: The article is putatively about the book, so I look for things like reviews to demonstrate the book is notable enough to get good coverage. The review in IEEE Communications is undoubtably strong, the second review is from a source I'm less familiar with, but, I'd judge that the article right now would have a better than 50% chance of surviving a deletion discussion at AfD if it were nominated. If you were going to try and add sources, they'd be reviews.

This page: Wikipedia:Notability (books) goes more into how notability is treated for book subjects.

I can imagine you'll get a little pushback around the use of press releases as sources, I'd recommend trying to limit that, and content sourced only to that, because it will affect how editors percieve the neutrality of the article.

At this point, in your shoes, I'd probably make that change and resubmit, and see what the next reviewer says. You've definitely made some progress, thank you for your contributions. --j⚛e decker^talk 04:55, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Joe,

Regarding the

If you look at his talk page, you'll see that I've repeatedly tried to explain to him that we're bound by our sourcing requirements (there are no sources that indicate a "correct" transliteration, let alone that contradict the registry's choice), and that we're not a dictionary; and particularly that we're under no obligation to reflect his personal theory on their motivation for choosing that particular transliteration. He's chosen to completely ignore all of that that and just engage in a slow-motion edit war for over a week. His AFC was an attempt to circumvent the existing article in order to push his opinion.

I rarely encounter determined edit warriors, so I'm not entirely sure how to proceed with this; I'd welcome your thoughts on the matter. — Scott • talk 23:38, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Often I'd suggest pointing the other editor at

WP:TRUTH, but having looked through this so far I don't think that will get through the objection, the fellow seems offended by the verifiable transliteration of the domain. What might work, is asking that editor to honor the requested move process. Since there's a dispute about the correct name of the article, we'd normally do a requested move discussion, and there, other editors could weigh in based on the evidence over the following week or so, and that would help take this from a 1-on-1 situation to a place where Wikipedia consensus was more obvious to that editor. If you like, I can suggest to the other editor they start that requested move, and/or offer to help them place the correct template. --j⚛e decker^talk

02:42, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

That would be great - thank you! — Scott • talk 09:34, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

I started with a note on the editor's talk page, I don't know if he'll notice, and have offered to help them place the template if they wish, we'll see what happens. Let me know if there's new activity on this, I'll watchlist everything, but it's possible I'll miss it, I have a pretty deep watchlist at this point.  ;-) Thanks! --j⚛e decker^talk 16:57, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Joe, I would like to open a discussion about this and would appreciate your help in doing this as it's somehting I am not familiar with. I am not sure what Scott's motive are and why he insists on using the incorrect transliteration but it is incorrect. shabka is a word and a name that has been in existance for a very, very long time and a simple search on google shows the correct way to write it in English and the relevant meaning this is in keeping with wikipedia's rules on transliteration and I listed numerous sources attesting to this. shabaka is simply a regional Gulf mispronunciation - hence a shabaka google search only returning the pharoah. My AFC is meant to be a complete article and covers the TLD as well. The sources of the other article all stem from one specific company dotshabakaregistry speaking to different reporters which doesn't make it correct. Any help much appreciated Sarasin (talk) 17:22, 18 March 2014 (UTC)Nabil

Sarasin, I'll start the discussion. Wikipedia produces articles based on what we find in published, reliable sources, and the discussion will and should be focused on that.

good faith, they almost always are. Thanks! --j⚛e decker^talk

18:18, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Re Scott, while I have no idea as to what Scott’s motivation is or why he has chosen to venture into an area that he does not normally cover and has no expertise in, his initial message to me below put me on my back foot and was certainly not in keeping with wikipedia’s ethos of [73] of welcoming Wikipedia novices:

To quote Scott - "The operators of Shabka (domain name), the dotShabaka Registry, have chosen to transliterate it that way. Please do not keep adding your personal and unreferenced opinion to the article. I know why you're doing it, incidentally."

I felt that he was on the one hand accusing me of subterfuge (my name is shabka, that is clear and in the open – it’s kind of hard to hide with a name like shabka) while being strangely defensive of this dotshabaka company. All I was trying to do was correct a spelling mistake!

Anyway, I will add to the article and the discussion so that this can be resolved properly. Sarasin (talk) 20:35, 20 March 2014 (UTC)Nabil Shabka

Okay, I've started the discussion procedure, please indicate your opinions and evidence on the article's talk page. Thanks! --j⚛e decker^talk 18:24, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi,

Would it be possible to change the title from "Social Phobia and Anxiety Inventory-Brief Form" to "SPAI-B: Social Phobia and Anxiety Inventory-Brief Form"?

Thanks, PsicoFS (talk) 16:41, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

It's technically possible, but not really in line with our

article title policy. Where there are two forms of a name, we don't put them together, but generally use a Help:Redirect to get readers from one possible search query to the right article. I've fixed SPAI-B to point to the current title. Can you tell me more about what you're hoping to accomplish with the longer title? Perhaps I can find a different way to help? --j⚛e decker^talk

19:38, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Dear Joe, As many readers may be looking for SPAI-B, I thought it could be benefitial to add the word "SPAI-B" to the title. For instance: SPAI-B: Social Phobia and Anxiety Inventory-Brief form. Does it make sense? PsicoFS (talk) 10:34, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

I understand your concern, but it turns out it won't make much difference, and we really do have our article title policies for a reason--we handle these things with redirects. In terms of Wikipedia search, SPAI-B already takes a reader directly to the article (that's what the redirect does), and while it's still a very new article, Google already has the Wikipedia article at position 4 when SPAI-B is searched on. In my experience, that will only improve. We don't prioritize SEO in our policies, instead, we prioritize doing the right thing for our encyclopedia, and it turns out the search engines do just fine with that.

Thanks again for contributing to the encyclopedia, and again, it sure looks like we could use an article on the SPAI as well... *nudge, nudge*  ;-)

--j⚛e decker^talk 14:57, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Slakr's Backlogger Award For helping to eat through backlogged deletion discussions, I hereby award you your very own colony of termites. They love eating logs of all sorts, so I figure that backlogs are on the menu, too. It's best you keep them away from special logs , though. :P Keep up the great work. =) Cheers, --slakr\ talk / 08:45, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Aww, thanks! --j⚛e decker^talk 18:43, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your recent work on Jac Schaeffer! Greatly appreciated! DonIago (talk) 15:44, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM! Thanks so much! --j⚛e decker^talk 15:45, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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 Done Thanks! --j⚛e decker^talk 07:35, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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 Done --j⚛e decker^talk 03:15, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment on the Talk page for Brendan Eich. I am concerned that one editor seems to be risking an edit war for political reasons, and if you have time I would appreciate any further attention you might spare.TVC 15 (talk) 01:47, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

I'll try and participate, my work has been fairly intrusive this week, but I'll give it a shot. --j⚛e decker^talk 02:39, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Nice work, you fixed 70% of the outstanding issues I have with the article.. And I note with a bit of irony that TVC 15 is concerned about people editing this article with a political agenda. A lot of the agenda oriented edits are now in the dustbin. Thanks again. I'll work on JavaScript when I get some time. Two kinds of pork (talk) 02:43, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Joe, Please understand that I'm doing the best I can navigating. I'm not certain if this is your "talk" page or not. At any rate, I need help knowing what to do to "improve" the page that has been "restored". Do I need to add links that backup what I"ve written? If so, how do I do that? k.p. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kentpavelka (talk • contribs) 00:39, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

First, let me just say "yes", this is a heck of a challenging place to navigate at first--decentralized processes, hundreds of policies, and so on. I'm just a volunteer here; I found it pretty boggling as well when I started.

The policy under which your article was deleted doesn't require much to resolve, pretty much, you need to add a reference or two to reliable sources independent from yourself--generally newspapers, magazines, or books that talk about you in detail. I don't think there will be much trouble finding any, but formatting them can be tricky, you might start with

Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners

as a starting point. Mostly you're going to put the "reference" (information about the source) between a <ref> and a </ref> at the end of a sentence that is backed by the relevant source, and they will magically appear where I just added a References section at the bottom of that article.

However, there are several reasons that an article *can* be deleted beyond the one this one was deleted for, and I see at least one more that is going to present an issue. As it stands, the article was likely copied (no insult intended) from your professional biography. It is easy to pick sections of the text in the article, Google them, and see where they've been published in copyrighted sources. [74]. That's kind of a problem for us, and for the copyright holder if any, you see at the bottom of the page when you make an edit that "By clicking the "Save page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL with the understanding that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient for CC BY-SA 3.0 attribution." In other words, you're giving up nearly any right over how the text is used. It's also ... well, not particularly right from a tone point of view. It was written to be lively and to put you in the best light, and as well it should. But Wikipedia strives for an encyclopedic, neutral tone.

The tone isn't going to cause the article to be deleted, but we can't ignore the copyright issues, the text of the article will need to be rewritten to not use borrowed content. (There is a process for donating works, but in the end, the tonal issues will require some level of rewrite in any case.)

Anyway, sorry, I've put a lot on your plate, why don't you take a look and see if you can address some of this, and I'll try and look back in the next day or two and I can perhaps give more guidance. If you think you've addressed all the issues, click on the "Submit your draft for review! " button on the top of the page, and within a few days (it varies a lot, often a couple days but occasionally as long as two weeks) someone will get back to you about reviewing the article and seeing if it's ready. I'd just like to help you get it in shape before then so you don't have to go through that wait multiple times!

Thanks for your patience with all of this. Best regards, --j⚛e decker^talk 02:08, 17 April 2014 (UTC)