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Thank you for your efforts to improve this article, but why did you delete the list of works? Please discuss before deleting again. thank you,

In a recent interview, the filmmaker, Maddin, discussed changes to the project, and noted that "the films shot for the *Seances* will NEVER exist as stand-alone shorts. They will only be broken up into fragments and placed in the *Seances* program for recombinations and endless permutations for the visitors to the interactive." JonathanGBall (talk) 19:47, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• That's an interesting detail that I agree could be added. However, I don't see why a thorough encyclopedia article on this project should not include the list of films "resurrected," if we have reliable sources.
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Would it be better to return the original material and then supplement it with explanation of the project changes from the more recent interviews? JonathanGBall (talk) 19:51, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm not sure. I appreciate that you're trying to update and tighten the article. I just became concerned about your removal of some independent reliable sources in favour of only cites to your own blog article. So I didn't touch the rest of your new content.
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• If there were inaccuracies that you've corrected, I don't see the need to restore. Was the info "contradictory" because the preexisting info was flat-out wrong, or has there been a "development" of the project over time? We needn't show the "development" of the Wikipedia article over time, if you're correcting inaccuracies. But if you have removed information related to the history of the project, I'd be concerned. Per
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  • Also, if you wish, I can easily restore to the article to its previous state and we can go from there, working to together. I can help you in terms of correctly formatting your blogpost reference, etc. Please let me know if this is something you'd like. best,
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You know more about the policies than I do, so do that if you think it makes sense. I feel like the thing needs to be rewritten entirely, but maybe it makes sense to restore the earlier version and then run a newer version past you? JonathanGBall (talk) 20:24, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• I don't want to undo all your work. I'd be content to leave your new sections as is, along with the now-restored passages on the resurrected film and theatrical and interactive launches -- and just format things a little better. But do you still believe the article needs to be "rewritten entirely," even after all your changes?
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I mean rewritten from the original version, not this one ... do you want to take this over for now, and do the reformatting you've noted? It would be good to also have some info about how those "resurrected films" aren't really going to be released but fragmented into the interactive, etc. Then maybe after I see what you do, I could spend some time tomorrow bringing the section in the main Maddin article in line with this stuff? JonathanGBall (talk) 20:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• I'll do some tinkering and clean up now, sure.
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Great, thanks!! I have to go offline and pick up my daughter. Also, re: the resurrected films... since the project shifted it appears that those films were really not "resurrected" at all -- everything was just originally scripted, rather than being based on historical research as previously planned and stated. That's why I wasn't sure about the value of the list. At minimum I feel it needs some sort of framing, maybe you can think of a good way to do it? Thanks a lot JonathanGBall (talk) 20:40, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look -- I've done some tidying. As you'll see, we have a way to format references so that it only appears once, at the end. And I do agree that, under the circumstances, the proposed "theatrical" seems to be no more than an abandoned intention, so I personally don't think it needs to be addressed (others may disagree later and re-add this). best,

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I like it! I made a minor edit, because one link was redirecting to a disambiguation page, but otherwise I think this looks much better. When the interactive site launches this year then there will be more work to do, but I think it works for now. Thanks! JonathanGBall (talk) 16:31, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Great. And while I know you're busy with your own work and writing, if you ever want to become involved in some way in
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I want to spend some time improving the Winnipeg Film Group-related stuff on the site, definitely. I wrote a book about John Paizs that was recently published by U of Toronto P and his stuff also needs updating. Maddin's stuff is where I've focused since his was brutally poor for the most famous of the Winnipeg filmmakers, plus it was a break from writing about Paizs, and he's the most-written about of the WFG people. I don't know if joining that wiki project would be a good or bad idea in terms of how much time I could devote, but I'll think about it. Thanks! JonathanGBall (talk) 16:55, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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