User talk:Killthesilence2
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Hello Kelapstick: I'm new to all this, as you've surmised. I am trying to create a new article similar to the articles I've seen by two entities similar to mine that I've worked with. But it was immediately flagged by you and then marked for deletion for apparently being too commercial. However when I go back and review these two other articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sounddogs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getty_Images
I don't see that the entry I was working on was any more commercial than those. I guess I need a better idea of what's acceptable. Large companies like Microsoft and Adobe Systems have huge Wiki articles filled with information about their products, etc. Seems fairly commercial to me. Incidentally the ultimate goal in having joined and creating the article was to eventually create a disambiguation link between another article relating to music that's using our trademarked name. We worked very hard to establish and maintain our mark and we need to protect it whenever and wherever we see it being potentially abused. What do you suggest? Killthesilence2 (talk) 17:47, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Hi KTS2, I am afraid I don't remember exactly what the article you created looked like, but I would like to help you out. First off, before I get started, I want to point out the "guideline" called reliable source guidelines which outlines what we consider reliable sources that can be used to establish notability as laid out in the policy I mentioned above. So, here is what I am proposing, If you think that you can establish notability, create a draft of the article here User:Killthesilence2/sandbox. If you make it there, it will not be deleted so you can work on it until it is ready and we are confident it will not be deleted. I will help you with it if you want, review, citation of sources, formatting, etc. Let me know if you have any questions or need any help.--kelapstick (talk) 18:30, 28 January 2009 (UTC)]
OK, thanks for your offer to help. The crazy thing is that the article was tagged for deletion and then deleted literally less than 10 minutes after it was started; there wasn't even time to complete the section with references, etc. So that was really bizarre for me being a first time contributor here. Again, if there is any offending material in there that's considered too 'commercial', it can be edited out. The main point of the article was to protect the mark and provide a disambiguous link away from the offender's article. I'll work on the sand box article then ping you. Thx. Killthesilence2 (talk) 18:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Being tagged so quickly isn't uncommon at all, all new pages are posted at Special:NewPages and people (myself included) patrol that page tagging new pages for deletion if appropriate (there are an amazing about of advertisement, attack, and blatant vandalism pages created every day). That is why it is (sometimes) best to start a page in a userspace and get it ready so that it will pass the new page patrol without any trouble and you wind up not fighting to keep it because there are no issues.--kelapstick (talk) 18:48, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello Kelapstick, I've placed the article in the Killthesilence2 User Page. Ideally some form of this will survive to be published as a disambiguous linked article when a user searches for "KILL THE SILENCE". Since that is our mark and we are involved in music, it is important for us to protect our mark and distinguish it from other similar usages, as currently found in Wikipedia. Thanks for any advice/editing you can help with! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Killthesilence2 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 29 January 2009
- One thing to note is the only other reference to WP:N, there is some good information there that can help you. Best of luck and let me know if you have any more questions.--kelapstick (talk) 23:07, 30 January 2009 (UTC)]