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Do you think that the main Puerto Rico article needs detailed percentages on the plesbicites? Wouldn't you agree that the outcome of the plesbicite is the important information. Joelito (talk) 22:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
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Hello, the various edits you have made to
THIS document appears to cover the subject of some of your citations. However, unlike your citations/External Links/references entries which reference a 2008 "Borrador" (draft) DRNA/JP document, this document, dated 2010, appears to be the final release. If this is the case, maybe you could replace the preliminary 2008 citations with citations pointing to this more recent document. Mercy11 (talk) 01:13, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thnx for the edits. Why was the list with the species taken out? Lvilla2962 (talk) 05:14, 23 December 2011 (UTC)Lvilla2962
- The answer is found in the edit summary for the edit diff HERE.
- Maybe you are not familiar with the diff feature of Wikipedia. You can access edit diffs by clicking on the "View history" tab of an article. By the way, it will be beneficial if you entered an edit summary every time you save a new version. That way you will let others know what your objective and rationale were. An editor's rationale for an edit is not always obvious, and another editor could undo your good faith edit if it makes no sense to him/her at the moment. So its best to write the rationale into the edit summary box as instructed at Save time.
- Per my edit summary, the table did not comply with Wikipedia policy titled "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information" (See WP:NOTSTATSBOOK, item #3). Chances are you entered it either because you were unaware of this policy of because you feel it is not "indiscriminate" or not a collection. If this last one is the case, there are two approaches to follow: you can either create a list article (like THIS ONE, or you can incorporate the list into the text of the article itself. That will help you keep the information you intended to add.
- Remember, I am willing to help you with the format of this article, but I would have to rely on you for the environmentally technical details as I am not that familiar with the topic. You might want to see another Puerto Rico environment-related article, WP:V. I say this becuase there are numerous verifiability issues with the NEC article that will need to be corrected or you will be risking having other editors delete them mercilessly.
- Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 15:04, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info and the help offer. Incorporating some of the table info into the text sounds like the best solution. I will need your help in editing, but let me first get familiar with the formatting stuff you gave me to read, after the holidays, so I'm not bombarding you with a whole bunch of questions.
- Thanks again and Merry X-Mas, Lvilla2962 (talk) 19:00, 23 December 2011 (UTC)LVilla2962
- I went ahead and fixed the citations. Please let me know if you see any discrepancies.
Hello. Please excuse me joining in here rather than creating another section disussing more or less the same thing. As far as citation style is concerned, Lvilla provided the first complete citation for a web page after a series of edits here (bare urls do not count as a "style", they must in any case be completed) and short-form refs for the first ref with page numbers after another series of edits here, so the citation style for the article has already been established, by Lvilla. The references do need some further work:
- correct linking errors in the Harvard refs (see below)
- where relevant, provide page numbers and thus short-form refs for the pdf references
- complete the remaining bare url refs
Lvilla, the following pages provide information about referencing systems (in addition to those alread provided by Mercy):
- Template:Harvard citation documentation
- including dealing with multiple authors
- |ref=
{{SfnRef|DRNA|JP|2008}}
is the bigger hammer you need to link the DRNA & JP 2008 citation to the refs (<ref>{{Harvnb|DRNA|JP|2008|pp=76–77}}</ref>
) - Help:Shortened_footnotes
I suggest you install the User:Ucucha/HarvErrors script to help you see where there are citation errors. In addition:
- you should replace all the minuses in page ranges (or similar) by ndash for MOS conformance, as in the example above.
- you can use the short form refs with abbreviations as above for the National Marine Fisheries Service and US Fish and Wildlife Service ref too, even without a page number, this will make the reference list tidier.
- there are some advantages to using Sfn instead of Harvnb inside ref tags: it is shorter and multiple refs to the same combination of work and page range are automatically consolidated, but that is for you to decide.
You said on my talk page that you would like to sort the citations out yourself, that will indeed be the best way of learning. Happy editing. --Mirokado (talk) 00:02, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- Mirokado, thanks so much for the sfn suggestion. That's what I used and for the Template page, which was easier to understand that another document I was looking at. I still need to look at the urls, but I need to review how its done because this is my first Wikipedia article.
- Mirokado: Thanks for your recent edits. As I am new to Wikipedia, please explain to me the following phrase for future reference as I am unfamiliar with with the term "pipe" as well as with the abbreviations: "pipe to lc the first letter of a wl".
- Hi! "pipe" refers to the "|" character in a wikilink (the name comes from its usage in unix when "piping" the output of one command to the input of another). If we want to change the visible text for a wikilink (common abbreviation "wl") we use the pipe symbol to do that
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. The first letter of a wikilink can be either upper case (often "uc") or lower case ("lc") but the rest of the link must match the case in the linked article. Thus the cryptic text meant: "No need to use a pipe in order to make the first letter lower case in a wikilink". --Mirokado (talk) 15:56, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hi! "pipe" refers to the "|" character in a wikilink (the name comes from its usage in unix when "piping" the output of one command to the input of another). If we want to change the visible text for a wikilink (common abbreviation "wl") we use the pipe symbol to do that
- Thanks!
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