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January 2012

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you.Rray (talk) 20:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add inappropriate

WP:ELNO
, no 11. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. --ColinFine (talk) 08:55, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

March 2012

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you insert a spam link. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted, preventing anyone from linking to them from all Wikimedia sites as well as potentially being penalized by search engines.Rray (talk) 22:53, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your message on my talk page.

I responded to your message and will continue the discussion there if you like. Rray (talk) 01:09, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

adding links to philipkdickfans site

I have added some links to content that appears on the official fan site for Philip K. Dick (that has be recognized by the Philip K. Dick Estate and is linked to from philipkdick.com). There is a complicated history for this site and I realize at one point it has been taken over by malware. The site has changed hands two times and the malware no longer exists on the site. The site was rebuilt from scratch, is stable and will be around for a long time.

The site now contains all the articles that the original site had with some exceptions and can be safely linked to. In addition the site has a vast section that is a reference for all the works that Philip K. Dick wrote called PKDweb or The Encyclopedia Dickiana and contains VALBS which is a reference for secondary materials published about Philip K. Dick. VALBS exist elsewhere on the Internet but this is the official copy of the information.

I would like to add links to each of Philip K. Dick's works with appropriate links from philipkdickfans.com including novel and short story pages. When I have recently made these changes, they were removed. This issue may have been that it appeared I was spamming the site because I was making several edits to several pages in one evening. I believe that the edits I would like to make fall within the External Linking Guidelines that I have read.

Also, one fact to know is that this site was the official Philip K. Dick site until the domain name was taken over but the Estate. The content here is not only generated by one fan but by scholars who are fans of the writer.

Horselover Fat (talk) 04:34, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the page which explains the guideline which explains why this isn't an appropriate external link to add to all of these articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ELNO#Links_normally_to_be_avoided.
  1. 11 of the links to normally be avoided is the applicable guideline. It reads: "Links to blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority. (This exception for blogs, etc., controlled by recognized authorities is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for people.)"
A vague reference to "scholars who are fans of the writer" doesn't meet the minimum standard of being controlled by recognized authorities who meet Wikipedia's notability criteria.
Finally, if you continue to ignore my requests (and multiple other editors' requests) to stop re-adding these links, I will have to report you to an administrator for spamming. I have no intention of being rude, but continuing to re-add those links after having been asked to stop is blatant spamming. It's a nice fan site, and I'm sure that having links in 60 or 70 different Wikipedia articles will drive a lot of traffic to the site, but the Wikipedia doesn't exist in order to promote this particular fan site. Rray (talk) 15:20, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I will contact the two others who had an issue with the links. With the new links I posted on the Talk page as you requested and explained why I was adding them. If you feel that I can't add the link to each work because it increases traffic, what is the problem with adding a link on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick to the entire encyclopedia? My goal is not to spam the site but increase the overall education of the reader. The content linked to is from published works by scholars who teach or write or other secondary and primary sources like Wikipedia requires. I don't believe that the site is a fan site as defined by Wikipedia. Horselover Fat (talk) 20:50, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
How does the site NOT qualify as a fan site? Is it controlled by a recognized authority who meets the notability criteria here?
Also, you should review the policies about adding sites when you have a conflict of interest. A quick Google search for "Mirfishe + phillip k dick" implies that you are involved in the running of the site, which means that you of all people shouldn't be adding links to the site. Rray (talk) 22:33, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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