User talk:Mlhk 2021

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. MB 14:46, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. MB 17:20, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mlhk 2021. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

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Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Mlhk 2021. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Mlhk 2021|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. --- Possibly (talk) 18:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Possibly, I see that you have undone all my edits to the FAW Jiefang page. I must say i disagree with your comments here. Happy to discuss certain parts/ sentences that you have doubts about but undoing all my edits seem a little bit over the top. Please let me know specifically which parts/sentences that you think are "promotional" and questionable and i am happy to review. And i am not being compensated for my edits. Thanks.

Your edits were really poor, because a)they amounted to being promotional copy, b) they added many, many items without proper

sources (click that link), c) the vast majority of the sources were for www.fawjiefang.com.cn, which is not a reliable source. In cases like this, where your edits were so promotional that they worsened the page overall, reverting them all is appropriate. Do you have any connection to FAW Jiefang? Your edits look exactly like what we see from COI/PAID editors.--- Possibly (talk) 03:53, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply

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So your concern is the lack of reliable sources, which can be addressed if more reliable sources such as news articles are used, in fact some of the sources in my set of edits were referenced from news articles, which you have also removed. While i agree that the page needed more reliable sources; content-wise, would you mind pointing out which sentence(s) as an example that you think it's not factual or impartial? this is for my reference. Thanks.Mlhk 2021 (talk) 05:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and by the way, just so you are aware, the original content on the page, content that you have reinstated - majority of the sources are FAW Jiefang's old official website, which should be seen as unreliable sources according to your standard. So how would you explain the fact that you went for the original copy, which also referenced official company sources, instead of my copy? Thanks.Mlhk 2021 (talk) 05:42, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You have not answered the question of whether you have any connection to the company.--- Possibly (talk) 05:44, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

i don't have any connection to the company.Mlhk 2021 (talk) 05:45, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It would be great if you could kindly address my questions above then. Thanks. Mlhk 2021 (talk) 10:06, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]