User talk:MrStoat

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Mcmatter were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs to

• meet any of the eight academic-specific criteria
• or cite multiple reliable, secondary sources independent of the subject, which cover the subject in some depth
  

Make sure your draft meets one of the criteria above before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If the subject does not meet any of the criteria, it is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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  Draft:Professor Ian Charles
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McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 13:20, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, MrStoat! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 13:20, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MrStoat, I notice your draft got declined. I came across the fact that Ian Charles doesn't have a Wikipedia article from a different direction: someone started an article about him several years ago in their user sandbox, but they also had it declined, and they abandoned it. I found your draft when I attempted to move their sandbox article into draft-space to resurrect it.

I've currently copied a lot of their text into your draft. I hope this is okay? I haven't deleted any of your text. I'm going to tidy up the text, as currently my merge is a bit messy. Theirs was a longer article than yours, but suffered from fluffy non-encyclopedic language (I'll trim this). They'd also used his selected publications as references, which has messed up. I'll sort that out too. With a combination of the sources you found, and his institutional sources (this is allowed for academics, by

I hope you don't mind me getting involved on the draft you started. Please let me know if I'm being unhelpful. Thank you for identifying that the article was missing, and getting it underway. To my mind, he's definitely notable in Wikipedia's sense. Elemimele (talk) 12:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sungodtemple was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

You may want to incorporate this into the Valentine's Day article or write an article about the letter instead of the person.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Margery Brewes and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 15:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]