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Hello, thank you. :D Also I was using the visual editor and just copied the citation from the text before mentioning the same webpage. Also sorry about the scaling edit but I was trying to link pages as the template had linked together. Thanks for the info and I'll note it. NFSL2001 (talk) 14:04, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are very welcome. Are you saying that the visual editor actually prompted you to use the ":0" style? (That never occurred to me, I have never used it – either just the basic mobile editor (which rapidly gets frustrating) or the full version). I jumped to the conclusion that you had seen it elsewhere and thought it the norm. My apologies if so! --

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Nah, I just copied the `[5]` in the visual editor as they're pointing to the same source. I do know about using the code editor as I did it over at Pinyin page. NFSL2001 (talk) 15:56, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have really found your feet! Great work on

Thank you. I appreciate it. :D NFSL2001 (talk) 13:11, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Typographic form

In the section you added, you talk about the shape and orientation of the strokes that make a letter. This calligraphic origin is important in the design of serif fonts and (I believe) especially so in Chinese and Japanese writing by brush. Many modern readers in the West are unlikely to be aware of such things, ordinary modern pens rarely have a chisel shape. Your text refers to 'strokes' and I was tempted to wlink that to

@

John Maynard Friedman

: I'm afraid I'm not good enough for this. The term 'letterform' is hard to find online and the definitions around are the ones from dictionaries but none from official documentation (e.g. Unicode/GB). The term itself is blurry enough that it is used widespread but no actual discussion on the term itself is done. I've search around on the Chinese community and found following pages that mentioned or translated the term:

• How to translate terms in typography and their meaning? 而 letterform 与上述概念相差则较远了，这个术语指的是某一 glyph 的表现形式——视乎语境，或许可译作「写法」。 ...letterform is differ form above concepts [here it's font/typeface/glyph], this term means one of the representation form of a glyph - depending on the context, (letterform) may be translated as "writing style".
• Japanese typography terms in Chinese with picture of English terms matching to Chinese/Japanese term. In Chinese, 'letterform' matches to "typeface', 'writing style', 'type sample' or 'handwriting' as in 'scribble handwriting' or 'bad handwriting'.
• Terms for fontsletterform 字形 where 字形 is usually translated to glyph.

English sites that mentioned 'letterform' usually come in the context of "Anatomy of letterform", like this site. This actually crashed with Typeface anatomy. NFSL2001 (talk) 04:18, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You have demonstrated more knowledge that most! What I have done in similar cases is to collect snippets from sources as I come across them, not actively searching (since I don't yet know what I'm looking for), but with an objective in mind. After a few months, I've collected enough to make sense of it and can write something coherent. (And then more knowledgeable people correct it, but that is the brilliance of Wikipedia's concept).

I hadn't spotted

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Thank you. I would actually said that I had encountered these posts before and had noted the important aspects of the articles/talks/forums, and when I see that something is wrong or missing on Wikipedia I will search back to articles/talk/forums that I knew had the info I needed for the Wikipedia page. For letterform it is actually unadvisable to merge (to whatever page you thought) as it is used distinctively than either glyph, character, font or typeface, especially in Unicode where the usage kinda floats between 'glyph' and 'character', so it requires more research and sources to be able to have a definite defintion and proper extensions. NFSL2001 (talk) 10:44, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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