User talk:Necrosporus

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Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page

As promised, I spoke with the administrator who blocked you,

User:Blueboy96. Neither he nor I am comfortable unblocking you at this point. JodyB _talk 21:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Necrosporus (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I have been blocked by user

User:Blueboy96 here for actions of Mclaudt, but I'm different person (and it's easy for administrators to check my IP address). If User:Mclaudt violated some WP policies, it is not a reason to block people who haven't violated Wikipedia policies and don't going to. I'm not going to violate Wikipedia rules after unblock. Additional details of my unblock request: * Only warning I get myself is «ballot stuffing», but since AfD is not a majority voting according to Wikipedia rules, there is no ballot to stuff. If you consider that warning (see WP:AfD/Dwm) as valid, point me to rule stating it and I would not do it again. * What I did — I added several sources to article to prove its notability. I suppose, adding sources is improvement to the article and since my sources was not removed, it probably is. * There is a precedent to unban other user falsely identified as a Mclaud «sockpuppet» here

. I suppose, my case is similar, so consider unblocking me for same reason. * If you have any reasons to don't unblock me, please state it on my talk page and add my page to your watchlist to make me able to discuss it without need of any additional special templates and other special actions. * After unblock I planning to help improving articles about free software and some programming languages. Also, I'm planning to participate software related discussions and maybe some other discussions if I feel myself competent with.

Decline reason:

First, you need to understand the difference between

BWilkins ←track) 10:37, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply

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>You're clearly violating

WP:MEAT

Do I recruit people?

> Re-adding improper links (I mean seriously, user-written articles on blogspot as a resource?) is disruptive

What does it disrupt? If you read that articles and feel that link is not useful for Wikipedia, you are free to remove it from article.

And my argument still in place — I haven't intentionally violated any Wikipedia rules, so there is no reason to keep me blocked.

• Some rules (citation from
  Wikipedia:Do_not_bite_the_newcomers
  ) for this case:

Do not call newcomers disparaging names such as "sockpuppet" or "meatpuppet". If a disproportionate number of newcomers show up on one side of a vote, you should make them feel welcome while explaining that their votes may be disregarded. No name-calling is necessary. Similarly, think hard before calling a newcomer a single-purpose account.

Behavior that appears malicious to experienced Wikipedians is more likely due to ignorance of our expectations and rules. Even if you're 100% sure that someone is a worthless, no-good, internet troll, vandal, or worse, conduct yourself as if they are not. By being calm, interested, and respectful, you do credit to your dignity and to our project.

Avoid using blocks as a first resort. Consider talking to a user before you block them.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Necrosporus (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

It's completely unfair to block someone for actions of other persons. Also it's not required, because you can just ask me to stop if I'm violating something, clearly standing, what is the matter of violation and why do you believe it is. If you unblock me, I don't going to be disruptive anyway.

Decline reason:

I'd prefer to wait until the AfD discussion that was being disrupted is concluded. When that discussion is over, if you are still interested in volunteering at Wikipedia, please feel free to ask again. AfD discussions usually take about one week. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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It seems to me like using

blocking to ban a user from a certain topic while ban requires Arbitration Committee rulings. I also wonder how Necrosporus' participation in discussion could be viewed as disruptive. Deletion policy states: "These processes are not decided through a head count, so participants are encouraged to explain their opinion and refer to policy.". Necrosporus can't disrupt deletion process by explaining his opinion and providing links which he view as notable. OckhamTheFox (talk) 21:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Necrosporus (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Discussion I was banned from (I found it unfair, as I can't see any arbcom decision) is now closed (see also my talk page for details)

Decline reason:

In real life, people do not get let out of jail because the building they were convicted of breaking into burns down (in other words, someone who disrupts one discussion is blocked to prevent them from disrupting other ones). But that's a moot point anyway since the block is for meat puppetry, and this request does not address that. — Daniel Case (talk) 15:41, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Mr. Daniel Case, you should know there is no exclusion of "discussion disruption" among other block reasons which can be appealed according Wikipedia:Appealing a block. Moreover, this guideline would be useless if en-wikipedia staff would think that user once blocked for vandalism, sockpuppetry, edit warring, violating the three-revert rule, spamming etc will continue this once unblocked. Even in jails people are usually spent definite time. P.S. Wikipedia:Blocking policy states that blocks are used to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, not to punish users. OckhamTheFox (talk) 17:50, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Necrosporus (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

There is no reason to keep me blocked, since last reason is now invalid. I haven't disrupted anything and was blocked for actions of other user. I'm not going to disrupt anything after unblock, but going to improve Wikipedia in ways I can accomplish. And I know, why Blueboy96 decided to block me, but I find that understanding of Wikipedia rules wrong (as I read corresponded rule from other language wiki and found it's stated more clear, without that ambiguity, "if there is doubt, is alternative account same person, or other, it can be treated as same person"), and going to propose changing

WP:MEAT policy, because it can be understood as recommendation to block innocent people. I agree, some my actions was questionable, but disagree, it was disruptive enough to block me. And administrators promised to unblock me when discussion

will over. It now is.

Decline reason:

Your behavior is clearly indicative of meatpuppeting, and will not be tolerated here. Moreover, nobody promised to unblock you. They advised you to request unblocking again when the AFD was over, and it will be reviewed. It has been reviewed, and declined. Further unblock requests will be considered disruptive. The Wordsmith^Communicate 18:50, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I have unblocked this account. The likelihood of further disruption is low, and we can and must be better at handling new users than this. Booting new users off the project permanently for relatively minor mistakes is not a good idea in any way shape, or form. I'd like to extend my apologies to Necrosporus for this sort of welcome, this really isn't how things are supposed to work here. henrik•talk 09:21, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Henrik, thank you for unblocking Necrosporus. He is new to Wikipedia and doesn't aware of it's rules. Now he is. P.S. Necrosporus is active in Russian Wikipedia for now. Thanks to so called canvassing which actually promotes Wikipedia rather than substantiate any harm. OckhamTheFox (talk) 09:33, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]