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Archive 56: July 2019

Thanks for the input about my netflix film articles needing additional references/citations. I was hoping the starting the articles would encourage others to fill in additional information, which can't be done by others than me when you moved them to drafts. I also noticed among your own articles that you had done the same thing yourself, starting film articles with about the same amount of content as mine. Don't you think you should move your own film articles to drafts too then?Thornstrom (talk) 10:13, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi. That's all well and good, except your articles did not show that the films met either

WP:NFILM (since the AFI citation shows that they received at least 2 reviews and were in wide distribution). On your articles, which were very nicely structured, those which did show notability, were marked reviewed. I don't create stubs with the intent of leaving it up to other editors to flesh them out (although if that happens, I am completely happy). But I have to say, of all the stubs on films I've created, only 3 have been greatly expanded upon. I create stubs to get rid of redlinks. And I fully intend to go back and flesh them out. At least get them to C class (if I can, older films can be difficult to get info on).Onel5969 ^{TT me}

11:47, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Dear Friend Onel5969, Kindly review Shiv Khoiwal page. ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 11:00, 3 July 2019 (UTC)sunilbutolia

If you feel Free Now should be deleted maybe consider deleting Hailo also as this was the old name for the company and the page is similar in terms of layout etc.

I moved the original Radiant (series) article to a new name called Radiant (manfra), and after I did that, the List of Radiant episodes article no longer directs to itself, instead it redirects to Radiant (manfra) whenever I click the link. Was wondering why it is doing this. Since I saw afterwards that you reviewed the List of Radiant episodes page, I thought that maybe you would be a good person to ask.MemeTrooper (talk) 18:55, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi MemeTrooper - Because the "series" article no longer exists, it should point to the "manfra" article. That's called a double redirect, and a bot will fix it if it is not taken care of manually. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:25, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Onel5969 So the List of Radiant episodes article should direct to again soon? It currently links to the "manfra" article rather than itself. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Radiant_episodes&redirect=no

Onel5969 Okay, never mind. I saw your edit saying that there is no need for a separate article. Why is that? I usually see that the article for the anime of the work and the comic/manga of the work are usually separated. Is this based on how popular the show is?

Hi

WP:EPISODE are great tools for showing when a standalone article is needed for episode listings. Hope this helps. Oh, and by the way, there is no need to "ping" me on my own talk page, users are automatically notified when someone posts on their talk page. Take care. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

15:58, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

I know I just sent something, but I was told to go to you for help with Draft:MediBang. I am asking if you can clarify specific promotional points. The article speaks about the pluses and successes of the company. I want to know if I gave too much positive points about the company or not. I currently can't find any sources about negative points. And what else might I meed to add or remove before submitting it for review? Can I add the logo back?MemeTrooper (talk) 13:32, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi MemeTrooper - no worries about asking questions. Most editors are more than willing to help others out. Nosebagbear was absolutely correct, in it's current form the article is heavily weighted to the positives about the company. In addition, the inclusion of products, some which expound on the benefits of the product. Doesn't get much more promotional than that. It's okay to say they make smartphones and art graphic programs, but to basically provide a product list is something you should only find in a promotional brochure. Nosebagbear is correct that there is also a notability issue with the draft as well. Regarding the logo, what was said on AfC's help page is the best advice. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:54, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

onel5969 - Should I remove the products section in that case? I attempted at finding some sources about the negatives of the company, but I assune there aren't any yet. And about notability, what do you guys base it off of? Number of searches on Google? I tried looking up a wiki page of the company awhile ago and saw that it didn't have one, and that's what had me decide to make the article. Does notibiluty have to be proven in some way? Should I just keep editing the draft until I find sources about the negatives btw?

Yes, I would definitely remove the product list. Two of the best guides regarding notability are

WP:CORPDEPTH.Onel5969 ^{TT me}

15:59, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Does having a product page have to do with notibility as well? For example, this company article has a section for its products, but the company is more well known https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_CorporationMemeTrooper (talk) 19:46, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

I write a lot on Indian songwriters; do not see the issue on this one. Contributions are within guidelines set - Billboard, and others. Ngagethesoul (talk) 02:10, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Dear Onel5969, can I create page for

Hi

WP:BIO1E would apply. And they are not even the winner of the bee. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

11:52, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Dear Onel5969, Kindly review page Jayant Rajora sports person. ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 04:55, 12 July 2019 (UTC)sunilbutolia

Hello, @Onel5969:

I think the article should be kept. Because he is a notable supporting actor in various films and tele serious.

And I doubt he's a 'Hollywood Walk of Fame' winning actor. Becouse i found that in his IMDb photos and his twitter tweet. Please check the following links.

1, IMDb photo 2, Luing Andrews's twitter tweet

If you find enough reference in this regard, please add this to the article.

Superstars8547 (talk) 18:06, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry, he's simply not notable. His biggest role was in 8ish, which has dubious notability. Other than that, not a single other significant role. Fails

WP:NACTOR. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

00:09, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

What kind of sources do you need for this article, 2011–12 Liga IV? This is the official page for this competion : https://frfotbal.ro/index.php?competition_id=2&season=130, is mentioned in the article.. :) Florin 1977 —Preceding undated comment added 15:25, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Florin1977 - Everything in the article needs to be sourced. The only current source in the article deals with the teams promoted to Liga III. The external link to the official page is a good resource, but until there are more independent sources, the article should remain a redirect.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:19, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Onel5969, check again, please! Florin 1977.

Nice job Florin1977! Onel5969 ^{TT me} 23:15, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Onel5969, this is Nimitz Zhang. I recently wrote an article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_cm_M.K._303_Flak), which you edited. Please accept my gratitude. I do have a few questions and am quite confused by your edits (this is my first time receiving an edit).

Is there a way I can see your edits? I cannot find any changes to my article and I am concerned that you edited my references.

Is there anything wrong with my article that requires editing? What did you edit?

Furthermore, I cannot find the article I wrote through Google when usually other Wikipedia articles pop up first. Is there any explanation for this (will some committee review my article first and approve it for public circulation)?

Thanks and best regards!--Nimitz Zhang (talk) 03:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi

WP:CITE to learn how to properly format references and footnotes, and what should be included in them. Third, now that it has been reviewed, you should begin to see it in Google or Bing searches. Indeed, I just searched and it turned up first on both engines. Finally, there is the question of improving the article. Right now there are only two main issues which I see. First, only the first usage of the article term should be in bold. Other instances in the article should simply be in regular type. Second, there was an issue regarding the website name in one of the refs, but since I created that issue when I used "refill" to fix the bare url's, I've corrected it. Hope this helps, and keep up the good work. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

11:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Much thanks! Nimitz Zhang (talk) 14:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Will work on the content. Pankaj verma 23 (talk) 17:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Hey, asshole, quit disrupting the Libertarian Capitalism article. Thank you. PhilLiberty (talk) 19:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Wow what an uncivil moronic message from an incompetent editor. You'd think that since you've been editing on WP for so long, that you might actually have picked up some knowledge about WP's policies and guidelines. What you did was best described as either a

WP:REQMOVE, or start a discussion on the talk page to gain consensus. But then, based on your above comment, it's not surprising that you might be incapable of acquiring knowledge. I usually delete uncivil posts from my talk page, but this one is so classically, idiotically uncivil, I'm going to leave it as a beacon for all other editors to understand what not to post. Don't post on my page again. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

22:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Appreciate your tags: I agree there is close paraphrasing in the article, so I'll work on that when I can. I'd appreciate it more if you would point out any overly POV and PEACOCK passages. It's a long article. I take it as read that it's not POV to say the body of work of the company or Carter himself had a profound impact on the city of Winnipeg and changed its character: I'm not taking a position as to whether that is for good or ill. Nor is it POV to say he worked well with others: beyond the MAA statement ("master of public relations") there's a documented example of him consulting with students and teachers at a school. I could take out the "gentleman bit" as that's only sourced to the obit.ZarhanFastfire (talk) 19:01, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi ZarhanFastfire. First, I disagree, with saying that he had a profound impact on the city of Winnipeg and its character is not POV. If a reliable, third party source said it, it should be put in quotes and cited. If not, it's commentary and POV. Second, other examples would be using terms like "world-renowned", "distinguished", "prestige" and statements like "commissions grew both in terms of scale and sophistication" are POV. Also, any quotes from non-independent sources, of which I would include the Winnipeg Architecture Foundation, Inc. as these are usually sources of PR for their fields, should not include any praise-like statements, like "Carter and his firm played a central role in the architectural renewal and development of Winnipeg" (unless that is included in the other source footnoted there, should also be removed. These are just examples, there are a few others. Hope this helps.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 19:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Made a lot of changes. Would appreciate you having a look when you have time. Tried pinging but I've noticed sometimes that doesn't work.ZarhanFastfire (talk) 23:34, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Onel5969. Could you please go through your edits to this article again? I accidentally reverted some of them. A gay user falsely accused me of vandalism on that article. Apologies for the rework. Regards, Dagana4 (talk) 19:31, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

The page "Piggy on the railway line" was removed because of no approved sources. However, no study would explore into such a rhyme, as nobody actually studies these rhymes and posts results. However, it is well known and very notable.

Plutonical (talk) 20:13, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi

WP:GNG. Just because something is popular, doesn't necessarily mean it is notable by WP's standards. That short article was almost solely sourced by YouTube sourcing, and YouTube is not a reliable source. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

21:00, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi user:Onel5969, Thank you for your editing on the Darius Clark Monroe & Robert Bittenbender pages. I appreciate your high standards for quality. I'm in the process of editing and adding additional strong sources to both articles. Monroe and Bittenbender are both currently participating in the Whitney Biennial, a selective exhibition. In a day or so, please look over their pages and tell me what you think. --Wil540 art (talk) 16:08, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi

WP:NARTIST to see if they qualify (most artists qualify by having their works in the permanent collections of prominent museums). GNG is a higher standard, and there should be significant in-depth coverage about each artist in independent sources, so things like artist's blurbs at art shows are fine to show they participated, but they count as zero towards notability.Onel5969 ^{TT me}

16:54, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Path slopu - it's perfectly reasonable to ask an editor to re-review an article/draft. Just be aware that sometimes they may not want to. Usually it's because they want another pair of eyes to take a look at it. For example, I'll do that if I'm unsure about the subject's notability. However, that's not the case in this instance. I moved them to draftspace so that you could work on them and get them ready to move back into mainspace. Which you have done quite well. I just moved them back. Keep up the good work. And don't be afraid to ask questions. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:52, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the help. Hope that you'll give advices in future also. Thank you.--PATH SLOPU 16:10, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Can you see Tinatin Bokuchava, it is stub, now--ჯეოMan (talk) 20:12, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

The article I created for the academic and author Gary Brucato has been slated for discussion regarding possible deletion by you, due to an issue with notability guidelines. I have added his academic title of Associate Research Scientist at Columbia Medical Center, to address the second criterion noted, but do not know what is needed to address the first. Brucato, who is the second half of the Stone-Brucato team that wrote the true crime book THE NEW EVIL, is responsible for codeveloping a system for criminal classification which has wide implications for both academic and research fields, and has been covered in quite a number of places in the mediaSH8901 (talk) 03:23, 22 July 2019 (UTC) outside of academia. This does not appear to be a situation in which an academic's work is only of relevance within his or her circles. Please let me know what is needed, as I may be able to provide the relevant information or citations. Additionally, I do not know how to add this discussion to the place you mention, where such conversation should be happening regarding the article.SH8901 (talk) 03:22, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I see that you found out how to contribute on the article's AfD page. The only comment I have is that WP, for the most part, is for editors, not advocates.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:51, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

The ETH Foundation is very similar to the

Please read

WP:GNG. The point you make above is a pretty good reason for keeping it a redirect ("although on a much smaller scale"). Just because something exists does not make it notable.Onel5969 ^{TT me}

11:43, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Reviewer Barnstar
		This is for your valuable efforts in reviewing new articles in Wikipedia. I appreciate your efforts.Your efforts are very valuable to the wiki community. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 16:12, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Path slopu. Keep up the good work, don't be afraid to ask for help. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:46, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Dear @Onel5969:

I have created some new articles, kindly review them. Sakshi Johri, Barkha Sonkar and Pooja Khanna Thank you, ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 19:46, 22 July 2019 (UTC)sunilbutolia

Challenge accepted with the Ricky Bell article. I will find sources, add the article to drafts, and possibly rewrite if necessary. Ricky Bell from New Edition/BBD (lead singer for the latter, sung many hits) is way too notable of a subject to not have an article (they were absolute STARS bro), and it's sad to see this arricle go down due to lack of sources provided by the original writer. I will add sources, rewrite if necessary, and remove the redirect so that such a notable star doesnt fall into obscurity over a lack of sources added onto a Wikipedia article. Thanks for giving me something to add onto my Wikipedia resume. :) DrewieStewie (talk) 20:39, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi DrewieStewie - And that's why I left the edit summary I did. He probably does have enough sourcing, it just needs work. Would you like me to move it into draft for you, to make it easier to work on? Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:41, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Sure! You don't have to do that for me, but I would truly appreciate that. Thank you very much. I'll get to work on it later today when I have time for it. DrewieStewie (talk) 21:10, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Okay

Draft:Ricky Bell (singer). When it's done either you or I can simply move it to the mainframe. There's no redirect there blocking it. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

21:50, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

hey man, yea regarding the page number on the references I wasn't able to add them as translated them directly from Italian and didn't have the paper version on hand, in regards to the Rudolf Bayr article I completely agree with you, i took it from german and translated it literally (quite poorly too) and only had 2 books as sources, one I had on hand while the other I didn't, so ill try to find a little more on him or else I guess ill just wait. anyways man, have a good day and thanks for your help, much appreciated, I've been on a break from Wikipedia for a while as I just graduated and am enjoying the summertime. Hope I can work with u soon. Spaicol (talk) 03:49, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Well, congrats Spaicol, and enjoy your holiday. Keep up the good work when you get back.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:19, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Here's some personal advice for when you start more AfDs in the future: Talk exclusively about the subject matter and avoid the personal jabs directed at other editors. I'll have you know the vast majority of redirects I removed have stayed that way; including fictional characters. Go raib maith agat! The Optimistic One (talk) 21:50, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

And it would be nice if you stopped wasting everyone's time with your obsession for creating a page for every fictional character, regardless of notability. Far more of these articles that you've either begun or supported which I have been forced to take to AfD have been turned back into redirects than have remained articles. I'm not saying you don't do good work, it's simply that you need to be more discerning regarding notability criteria. And I like your Celtic reference above. Right back at you. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:00, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

You have to be honest and admit that most AfDs you started because of me results in a Keep, occasionally, I make a mistake but it's not in the majority. Here's my issue with Americans in general: My language is called As Gaelge (or Gaelic, or simply just Irish), Ireland is not in the UK anymore, and hasn't been for over a century, some British people are not English, and Europe isn't a country. Maith an fear! The Optimistic One (talk) 22:26, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Actually that's incorrect. Far more of the AfD's prompted by your work which I have initiated have resulted in redirects, rather than keep. But we'll agree to disagree. And I thought I had written above, and see I didn't (I must have simply thought it), is that you do very good work, and are an asset to the project. Finally, while I'm a mutt, more than 75% of me is Welsh or Irish (far more Welsh than Irish). Did you take offense at my calling it Celtic? Onel5969 ^{TT me} 23:12, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

The last few AfDs went your way, but for awhile my work was nearly always kept. Most recently,

Jim Hopper, (I know there wasn't an AfD in place for him but it still counts). I'm glad there's bit of Celtic in you. Off the top of my head, I can think of Madison Clark, Mike Ehrmantraut, and a few Trailer park boys characters. All these articles were AfD'd by you, and they were kept, there's a few more that I can't think of right now. The ones that you nominated that were not kept were Luciana and Troy from FTWD. That's all I can think of right now. I'm never offended by a yank's misconception of my homeland. Feel free to nominate in the future, but leave the personal comments on my talk page. Ta failte romhat! The Optimistic One (talk

) 23:43, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Bull Demon King is currently have many keep! What's up?? 😌😌😌 65.18.122.235 (talk) 06:31, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Can you reply to me as soon as possible? Thanks. BamZ412 (talk) 13:32, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Why you recirecred page futsal club sipar to the tajik futsal federation??? Tsaroceanaugyst (talk) 17:21, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi! Can you answer the question above? I am the number one fan of the person whos page you deleted that I created !!! how do I return it now?

Do not be tired And Thank you M.k.m2003 (talk) 01:59, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Excuse me so much for taking You time.

M.k.m2003 (talk) 02:05, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, M.k.m2003 - keep up the good work. And please try to give just a bit more info in your footnotes. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 03:45, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

How come you deleted this article? --UberVegan🌾 05:00, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

The article wasn't deleted, it was reverted back to a redirect. The subject does not have enough notability for a standalone article. See

WP:BIO1E. Hope this helps.Onel5969 ^{TT me}

11:05, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for responding. Yes, I had already read both policies that you pointed out prior to creating the article. IMHO, it seems that Echols, sans the other two of the

WP:NOTABILITY. From what I've seen on Wikipedia, a person who writes a New York Times bestseller (with rave reviews, including a Los Angeles Times top 10 list) and a New York Times article where Johnny Depp compares "Echols’s writing to Dostoyevsky’s"

, would merit an article.

And, if that is not enough, Echols produced (along with Peter Jackson) the film, West of Memphis, that received a 96% TOMATOMETER from RottenTomatoes.com, 5-stars by Roger Ebert, and excellent reviews from reliable sources such as The Independent, Hollywood Reporter, The Guardian, The New York Times, et al.

I would think that his heavily reviewed book and film, in and of itself, would warrant a stand alone article. In addition, for more than a decade until present, there have been a plethora of reliable sourced general interest articles singularly about Echols, from The Guardian to The New York Times, from Los Angeles Times Magazine to People. Therefore, can you please be specific why Echols does not meet WP:NOTABILITY?

I'm further unclear as to why a discussion to revert back to a redirect wasn't placed on the talk page? I think that a consensus would have seen this differently.

May I request that you please restore the article and, if you still believe that it does not meet the criteria for WP:NOTABILITY, then place an RfD on the talk page? This will allow more time to properly expand the article and the community an opportunity to discuss. Following are several reliable sources (some already linked prior) that might influence your opinion:

The New York Times, Rolling Stone, The Independent, RogerEbert.com, The Guardian, Newsday, Hollywood Reporter, USA Today, The AtlanticLos Angeles Magazine, Fox News, Hollywood Reporter, The New York Times, People, The Guardian, Rolling Stone, Penguin Random House, Arkansas Times, Los Angeles Times, CBS News, The New York Times, Rolling Stone, Los Angeles Times, Boston Globe, The New York Review of Books, Salon, Chicago Magazine, Rotten Tomatoes, The Guardian, New York Journal of Books, Publishers Weekly, Boston Globe UberVegan🌾 22:17, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi UberVegan - would you like me to move into draft so that you can work on it? Onel5969 ^{TT me} 09:54, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm not really clear what that means. Where would the draft be located? UberVegan🌾 15:28, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Damien Echols

.

Ok, great. Does this mean that anyone can edit it and submit it? Thank you. UberVegan🌾 16:27, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes, but they have to know it's in draftspace.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:56, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for teaching me about moving pages.

Libertyguy (talk) 02:17, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Libertyguy - keep up the good work.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 09:55, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I hope you can review Ocean Drive (magazine), if you have the time. Thanks.Maxen Embry (talk) 08:36, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Nice job Maxen Embry. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 10:00, 31 July 2019 (UTC)