User talk:Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi
Just a start, but a few more references added to the article; initial thoughts welcome though. Schissel | Sound the Note! 02:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Those are solid references. My initial concern was, as my edit summary stated, "is this person notable to anyone not interested in this music area? Had famous teachers/pupils and was a prof, but seems no more notable than your average professor otherwise". With the exception of the prize, and not being a musician I have no idea of the value of that, I can only make assumptions about "the national composition prize" - I tried looking for info on it to judge its importance but was unable to find anything - maybe it has a more succinct name that isn't being used here, I still have doubts about notability, teaching famous people does not make one famous, but maybe I'm undervaluing his music and it's more appreciated in a musicologist's eyes. I'll copy this to talk page, as it's probably more appropriate there.--Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi (talk) 10:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
His music is described elsewhere in the book referred to (the sections that Google Books makes available; I don't own it) as trivial, admittedly the author's opinion (I will admit guiltily that to date I have skimmed his symphony no. 4, at NY Public Library, and that's the size of it. And as to the author's opinion, I'm fairly sure I disagree with it when it comes to composers I do know more music by, but that's POV, personal opinion, and whatnot for you...) I will re-read the conditions on musical notability specifically and User:Uncle G/On notability generally, since I think I misremember their content- and to give an example, too: e.g. Salomon Jadassohn's music, though I like what I've heard (a movement of a piano trio, his first which can be downloaded in score at URResearch and which I've converted to MIDI), is not, I'd say, as important to the history of music, does not make him notable, in the way that his books on composition and his teaching (his list of students, and perhaps what he taught them- if that can be established) do. Grist for continuing conversation though I hope. Schissel | Sound the Note! 15:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Good work on fixing up the article. I checked through google scholar and found an additional reference or two, but at this point I think the article well sourced. If you are interested, the article on Egon Wellesz also needs a lot of work. Eusebeus (talk) 15:54, 15 December 2007 (UTC)