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Question from 1chrysalis (14:55, 19 June 2025)

Good afternoon. Could you please check my edit and see if I have done it correctly? --1chrysalis (talk) 14:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1chrysalis, hi! I assume you're referring to your changes to ain't; I've reverted them because it's alreqady in the article: Ain't is a negative inflection for am, is, are, has, and have in informal English - this is more accurate than your edit, because "ain't" doesn't simply mean "am not". — Qwerfjkltalk 16:12, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I used the words "aim not". 1chrysalis (talk) 13:23, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Lahbbi (15:41, 20 June 2025)

Hey how can I put my information on Wikipedia as a musician --Lahbbi (talk) 15:41, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY for why. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:31, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply
]

Question from Mopsssy (20:27, 20 June 2025)

Hello sir/ma’am, I have come to ask about the +/- sign in green or red, that appears after editing a page. --Mopsssy (talk) 20:27, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mopsssy, that's the change in size of the page in bytes. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:31, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Silent failure on invalid title

@Qwerfjkl: I just ran into this after copy-pasting some titles from a Quarry-derived spreadsheet, which led to mojibake and some non-printing characters getting copied over. It makes sense that that fails, but the issue is that the failure was silent. In a 5,000-item list (yes, I know unusual use case for MassXFD), I had to mess around with dev tools to find the titles that were causing the issue.

To reproduce, try to start a MassRfD for [[Foo�]]. --

]

Tamzin, it looks like a bug (kind of) in mw.Title(). I could check for the error, but currently all my code does is outline in red the input field with invalid input, which might not be that helpful for checking what is wrong. (OOUI doesn't seem to have a way to show why the input is invalid.)
— Qwerfjkltalk 14:29, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, the title bug is expected, it's the handling that's the issue. No red outline showed up for me. I knew to look for that behavior (having forgotten to put a section name in once) and it didn't happen. Not sure if that's a universal issue or it was specific to me having almost 5,000 items listed. Even if the latter, though, just the red outline wouldn't specify which title is the issue. I don't have any ideas of how to do that in OOUI though. -- ]
Tamzin, I've updated the script to catch parsing errors - now it will highlight the title input field red as expected, and also indicate which title(s) have the error in the console, which is at least an improvement over the status quo. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:16, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Non-admin closure of a discussion as "delete"

I see that you closed the deletion discussion for Category:Adik doodem as "delete". The trouble with that is that the discussion, being closed, no longer shows up as a current discussion, so there's no reason for any administrator to look at it, so it is likely that the deletion will never be performed. I only happened to find the discussion by chance, because I was checking the history of the creator of the category for other reasons; if I hadn't done so, it might have gone unseen for years. (That is not a fanciful exaggeration: I have known it to happen.) Non admin closures as "keep" by an experienced and competent editor such as you are fine, but closures as "delete" should be left to administrators. JBW (talk) 21:06, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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WT:CFDW, where an admin will (or would) process the discussion in due course. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:52, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply
]
Indeed ... I would have processed it at this point. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:42, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I leave the category tagged so that it will fall into a maintenance category if it's left unattended for too long. (HouseBlaster's comment covers the rest.) — Qwerfjkltalk 12:11, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, thanks for the clarification. I have very rarely taken any part in dealing with categories for deletion, and evidently there's a whole layer of stuff there that I didn't know about. JBW (talk) 18:18, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Academy of Geneva (disambiguation)

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:07, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews

Copied from Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) § Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews because this page is listed on Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Subscribe.

Dear Wikimedia Community,

The Community Affairs Committee (CAC) of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF) to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF).

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

Wikispore

The application to consider Wikispore was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided not to recommend Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows better flexibility and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support.

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

Wikinews

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[1][2][3] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[4][5], see section 5 as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[6].

Initial metrics compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

Options mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:

  • Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
  • Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
  • Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
  • Archive Wikinews projects.

Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

Feedback and next steps

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: Public consultation about Wikispore and Public consultation about Wikinews. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions.


-- Victoria on behalf of the Sister Project Task Force, 20:56, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Mian Saad 01 (14:33, 28 June 2025)

if i have to add a biography or detil about a personality how do i do that --Mian Saad 01 (talk) 14:33, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLP, Wikipedia has strict policies for articles about living people. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:58, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply
]

Question from TCSL2022 (14:37, 28 June 2025)

Hi Qwerfjkl,

I hope you're well. I'm reaching out as a contributor under the username TCSL2022 (Aquayemi-Claude G. Akinsanya). I’ve seen your extensive contributions to Wikipedia and truly admire your dedication and experience.

I have a few questions and would appreciate your guidance:

Content Copyright and Attribution: I’d like to ensure proper copyright notice and attribution for work related to The Claudes SEN Law Campaign and related media. What is the correct way to add a copyright statement such as:

"Copyright © TCSL2022 | Aquayemi-Claude G. Akinsanya" to a page or user subpage without violating Wikipedia's content guidelines?

Notability and Page Restoration: If a page draft related to The Claudes SEN Law Campaign or my advocacy work was previously declined or deleted, what steps should I follow to request a review or resubmission? (I am aware of conflict-of-interest guidelines and want to ensure transparency.)

Quote Attribution and Formatting: I’d like to share famous or original quotes for use in Wikiquote or related articles. How should they be formatted and attributed properly under Wikimedia rules?

Fair Representation: How can I ensure accurate and fair representation of verified achievements, media appearances, and awards (e.g., Global Recognition Award 2024, Forbes features, etc.) in line with Wikipedia’s reliable sourcing policies?

Thank you in advance for your time and support. I’m eager to contribute in a way that aligns with Wikipedia’s standards and values.

Warm regards, Aquayemi-Claude G. Akinsanya (TCSL2022) --TCSL2022 (talk) 14:37, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:LLMTALK. Let me know if there's anything else you need answered. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:57, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply
]

Question from Creative Contents (11:23, 29 June 2025)

Paid editing disclosure I am making paid contributions to Wikipedia as a freelancer. I am currently assisting a client with a request related to a technical edit, in compliance with Wikipedia's terms of use. --Creative Contents (talk) 11:24, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Creative Contents, do you need any help? If so, what is the technical edit? If not, they you don't need to disclose to me - you should disclose on your userpage (which I see you have done) and on the talk page of the affected article(s). — Qwerfjkltalk 19:00, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I want to create a page for this named person Georgina Wills whoms page was removed due to not meeting wiki's notability Creative Contents (talk) 00:15, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Or if not, I want restoration of the page
  • Georgina Wills
Creative Contents (talk) 00:33, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Georgina Willis rather Creative Contents (talk) 01:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Georgina Willis is currently a redirect. But I suggest you don't continue to edit the page, because of your COI and apparent lack of notability. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:19, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply
]
It's the redirect I'm currently trying to fix because I was assigned this task by willis herself and she's been claiming I'm the one who deleted her page that I should make a restoration because of this she could damage my image as a freelancer I'm 2C0F:F5C0:620:5629:F181:5674:2FC9:495 (talk) 14:54, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's the redirect I'm currently trying to fix because I was assigned this task by willis herself and she's been claiming I'm the one who deleted her page that I should make a restoration because of this she could damage my image as a freelancer I'm Creative Contents (talk) 10:06, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:GNG, find three reliable sources with in-depth coverage of the subject. If you can't do that, I suggest you refund her. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:11, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply
]

Question from Rabi09 (15:04, 30 June 2025)

I am an actor,in bengali film as hero,my films name are kumari maa, diragaman, aatotayee, must be noted. how --Rabi09 (talk) 15:04, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY - if you are notable, the best thing to do is wait for someone else to write an article about you. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:21, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply
]

recent stream warnings

Hello. I hope you are doing well. I know I have asked this before, but would kindly tell me again how to go through recent changes? I am currently running a task that goes through recent changes, but I am not sure if it is the optimal way. I am getting a lot of warnings similar to following:

WARNING: Could not load json data from
{"$schema":"/mediawiki/recentchange/1.0.0","meta":{"uri":"https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_created_by_the_United_States_Army_with_known_IDs","request_id":"a9031db5-eeb3-484c-a1ca-e8c4619c01f0","id":"e12a9515-740a-4dd9-831f-464004ebec0b","dt":"2025-06-30T16:39:12Z","domain":"commons.wikimedia.org","stream":"mediawiki.recentchange","topic":"eqiad.mediawiki.recentchange","partition":0,"offset":5715580997},"id":2913535124,"type":"categorize","namespace":14,"title":"Category:Files created by the United States Army with known IDs","title_url":"https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_created_by_the_United_States_Army_with_known_
Unterminated string starting at: line 1 column 561 (char 560)
WARNING: Could not load json data from
{"$schema":"/mediawiki/recentchange/1.0.0","meta":{"uri":"https://
Unterminated string starting at: line 1 column 58 (char 57)

this warning is about commons. most of the warnings are from commons, wikidata, and meta, but I get warnings from almost all the sites. I am also not sure if the number of errors are more on my local machine than toolforge. I am using following code:

wiki_sites = get_wiki_sites()  # load supported wikis once, imported from amp_supplements

def process_edit(change):

    if change["type"] != "edit" or change["namespace"] != 0: # process a single recent change from EventStreams
        return  # skip non-edit changes or changes outside namespace 0

    if change["wiki"] not in wiki_sites: # check if the wiki is in the dictionary
        return  # skip edits from unmonitored wikis

    site = wiki_sites[change["wiki"]] # get the correct site from the dictionary

    page_title = change["title"]
    #print(f"Processing: {page_title} on {site.lang}.wikipedia")

    if not page_title:
        return

    process_page(page_title, site)

def observe_recent_changes():
    # monitor recent changes and process AMP-related edits
    #global edit_counter
    stream = EventStreams(streams=["recentchange"])
    for change in stream:
        try:
            process_edit(change)
        except Exception as e:
            print(f"Error processing change: {e}")
            current_time = datetime.now().strftime("%H:%M, %d/%m/%Y")
            with open(log_file, "a", encoding="utf-8") as log:
                log.write(f"* Error encountered at {current_time}:\n\n {e}\n")
                #log.write(json.dumps(change, indent=2, ensure_ascii=False))
                log.write("\n\n")

if __name__ == "__main__":
    observe_recent_changes()

the amp_supplements can be found here on github. I tried several things, one of them was keeping only "en" in `get_wiki_sites`. That generated lots of warnings as well:

WARNING: Could not load json data from
{"$schema":"/mediawiki/recentchange/1.0.0","meta":{"uri":"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:History_of_the_Democratic_Socialists_of_America","request_id":"bc786cc1-7892-4620-8b11-42c1d125c05b","id":"cc6a26dd-14c8-47f8-aa4e-2ba538e69226","dt":"2025-06-30T17:03:38Z","domain":"en.wikipedia.org","stream":"mediawiki.recentchange","topic":"eqiad.mediawiki.recentchange","partition":0,"offset":5715634924},"id":1918338231,"type":"edit","namespace":118,"title":"Draft:History of the Democratic Socialists of America","title_url":"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:History_of_the_Democratic_Socialists_of_America","comment":"/* 1990s */","timestamp":1751303018,"user":"SocDoneLeft","bot":false,"notify_url":"https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1298126194&oldid=1298126019","minor":false,"length":{"old":63542,"new":63554},"revision":{"old":1298126019,"new":1298126194},"server_url":"https://en.wikipedia.org","server_name":"en.wikipedia.org","server_script_path":"/w","wiki":"enwiki","parsedcomment":"<span class=\"autoc
Unterminated string starting at: line 1 column 1004 (char 1003)

I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Any help will be appreciated a lot. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:18, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Usernamekiran, sorry for the late reply, I was away for a week or so. I did actually have the same problem 2 years ago, the fix that worked for me was pip install sseclient==0.0.22 — Qwerfjkltalk 13:25, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
no worries. and thanks a lot, downgrading the sseclient worked perfectly. your help is much appreciated. —usernamekiran (talk) 15:45, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guild of Copy Editors' June 2025 Newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors
June 2025 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the June 2025 newsletter, a quarterly-ish digest of Guild activities since April. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

Hall of Fame: Congratulations to Dhtwiki for their well-deserved addition to the Hall of Fame last month, and thanks to GoldRomean for the nomination.

Election news: Voting in the mid-year coordinator election ends at 23:59 on 30 June. Results will be announced at the election page.

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July Drive: Our July 2025 Backlog Elimination Drive will begin on 1 July and finish on 31 July. Barnstars awarded will be posted here.

Progress report: As of 02:30, 30 June 2025 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have completed 148 requests since 1 January, and the backlog stands at 2,270 articles.

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Tech News: 2025-27

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Category:Women entertainers, etc

Hi, would you be prepared to reopen the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_June_14#Category:Male_entertainers, please? Implementing this is proving problematic because (i) "by occupation" reduces the scope, e.g. Category:Gay entertainers was a non-diffusing subcat of Male entertainers, but is not a subcat by occupation. (ii) The nomination did not include the like-named subcats, such as Category:Women entertainers by nationality and Category:American women entertainers; navigation links were provided by {{fooian fooers}}, but this now creates fewer links than before, e.g. see American female dancers where we have to choose between "Dancers / Women by entertainment occupation" on the first line of the nav template (current version), or American dancers / American women entertainers on the second line (old version).

Alternatively I could just re-create e.g. Category:Women entertainers as a sensible parent to Category:Women entertainers by nationality, Category:Women by entertainment occupation, Category:LGBTQ women entertainers and Category:Jewish women entertainers, and mark it as a container category. This seems a valid outcome, but it seems to disrespect consensus as it flies in the face of the rationale that was given in the CFD. Also, it would have been better to rename to Category:Women entertainers by occupation rather than Category:Women by entertainment occupation. – Fayenatic London 08:14, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fayenatic london, okay, I've reverted my closure and relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 July 5#Category:Male entertainers. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:43, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not really sure why the discussion had to be reopened, the subcategories can simply be renamed as well in a similar manner, Category:Women entertainers by nationality would become Category:Women by entertainment occupation and nationality (as a subcategory of Category:Women by occupation and nationality) and Category:Brazilian women entertainers would become Category:Brazilian women by entertainment occupation (as a subcategory of Category:Brazilian women by occupation). The parent categories for this guidance already exist... ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 18:41, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That said, the scope was meant to be made more precise to prevent
WP:NONDEF problems. If anything is now outside the scope, it should be purged from the category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 18:44, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply
]
Zxcvbnm, feel free to make your points at the discussion. Reopening the discussion does not mean it cannot be closed in exactly the same way (though I will abstain from closing this a second time). I just felt Fayenatic's points were reasonable enough to warrant discussion, that didn't occur before it was closed. — Qwerfjkltalk 21:45, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Hodosanokatomiakaihoutte (11:32, 3 July 2025)

How to create a page --Hodosanokatomiakaihoutte (talk) 11:32, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

the tutorial; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! — Qwerfjkltalk 13:27, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply
]

Question from Floating Orb (15:00, 4 July 2025)

Hello @Qwerfjkl! Can you please look at this Pasco County discussion (the one labeled "Education edtion") and say what you think about it and which way it should go? --Floating Orb (talk) 15:00, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Floating Orb, I've responded there. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:59, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Arminden

Page: Amir_Segal

Diff: Special:Diff/1298470048

Comment/question: Hi. The missing titles were there (I mean: missing) already, I just put the existing ref details in order within the usual template, which made the missing parts visible to your bot. Not willing to go any further myself, sorry. Arminden (talk) 17:13, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Arminden, that's just a limitation of how the bot detects missing titles, particularly in this case when it already had a title ("Mitaam 23") that you removed. The bot can't check whether the titles are meaningful. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:29, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nice bot, good bot :)
Kidding. Maybe it can be figured out what was there. Arminden (talk) 19:54, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from EuskeraNationalist (22:15, 4 July 2025)

Hello, how to create a page that's uncreated --EuskeraNationalist (talk) 22:15, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

the tutorial; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! — Qwerfjkltalk 13:27, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply
]

Question

I know of at least two incidents, Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 29#United States television stub renaming and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 July 5#Music of Fooland by city, where your User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD script has gone a bit haywire, tagging every category in the batch with the entire batch-stack of CFR templates instead of just the one that was relevant, so that each category looked like this or this until editors manually corrected them by removing the extraneous templates.

I can't say with any certainty that these are the only two times this has ever happened, they're just the only two times I'm aware off offhand, because I had been the creator of at least one category in the batch and thus got notified of the discussion.

But since I'm not a user of the script, I don't know whether there's a bug in it or whether it was just a user error. Could you do a quick look into it, to see if there's a coding error to fix, or a way to improve clarity on what a nominator should do differently if it really was just a straight-up user error that could have been avoided? Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 12:24, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bearcat, looking at the code I don't see how this could have happened. The text to append is obtained prependText: prependTextInputField.getValue().trim(), i.e. directly from the input field. @Nederlandse Leeuw, what do you put in the text box just below the line "action"? What I assume happened is that this is user error and you put the titles in the tagging area. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:12, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Qwerfjkl, thanks for asking. :)
As I told Bearcat, what I did was...
  • Nomination title: Music of Fooland by city
  • Rationale (see above)
  • Action: {{subst:Cfr|Music of Argentina by city}} (and the other 33 cats)
  • List of titles: Argentine music by city (and the other 33 cats)
  • Notify users? checkY
  • Category template: Category link with extra links – {{lc}}
I think the Action and Category template were wrong? And I should probably have done something with the Example|Target1|Target2 thing in the List of actions? NLeeuw (talk) 12:16, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I assume this faulty result was due to me making (a) mistake(s), and not due to a technical error. For the record, I used MassCFD for a group deletion nomination successfully earlier today or yesterday. With this MassCFD for a group renaming nomination, something went wrong with the target catnames and the link to the CFD section Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 July 5#Music of Fooland by city. I tested the subst:Cfr template in my sandbox preview to check whether it worked, and I thought it was producing what I wanted it to do, so I went ahead and generated the MassCFD. I most likely misunderstood at least one or two things about how it was supposed to work. Good day, NLeeuw (talk) 14:22, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
PS: I created Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 July 4#Betawi catloop with MassCFD yesterday and that went perfectly fine. I guess because it was a deletion nomination, I couldn't do anything wrong with target categories, because they don't apply. ;) NLeeuw (talk) 14:36, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nederlandse Leeuw, I'll try to improve the UI/UX to make this a bit more obvious, probably the simplest thing is to grey out the action field, because the dropdown works for almost all cases. — Qwerfjkltalk 21:48, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Stop that please

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