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Thanks for helping by giving advice on the above article and leaving a message on my talk page. I do appreciate it. I'm aware that several of the articles I'm writing at present are orphans. This is because they have only relatively recently be given appropriate binomial names and the genus they belong to appears yet to have been writing about in Wikipedia. I'm attempting to cover those species that are critically endangered in New Zealand and hope that once added to Wikipedia other editors will give me a hand linking them in. If others fail to do this I am aiming to de-orphan once I've caught up on those species with no current articles. I'm trying to make it easier for other editors to assist by making sure I add them to the appropriate Wikiprojects to ensure other editors interest in this area are alerted to the article deficiencies. It certainly helps if people such as yourself add the appropriate orphan markup when patrolling the articles as there is so much to do. Thanks again for your help Ambrosia10 (talk) 07:36, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Dear Musa,

We notice that you have tagged for deletion the page that we have created for Hillside World Academy. This page is one of many that are listed under International Schools Singapore. It is a listing page that then goes to a detail page for each school. We had a listing in it for Chinese International School but the school has recently changed names so we are updated the page.

Please can you re-look and reconsider the deletion.

Minuteus (talk) 02:11, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

The article

Hello Musa Raza, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I deleted

Hi, I don't understand why this article has been nominated for deletion. It is for a new player who made his debut over the weekend - new players have always had their page created upon winning their first cap, it's been this way for years. Why is this suddenly a problem? MunsterFan2011 (talk) 10:23, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

• Asrar (musician) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hello Musa Raza. I saw your request on

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose editing privileges. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a loss of editing privileges. Thank you. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:32, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

@Mr. Stradivarius: I'm not engaging edit war. TheRedPenOfDoom is removing all the sections from the article and I'm just asking him to discuss it on talk page of the article before removing it. Okay, I agree the edits by TheRedPenOfDoom are not vandalism but if the article is broken into sections there is no need to remove the sections. The edits by TheRedPenOfDoom are unnecessary. The Image that violated copyrights has been removed but now there is no need to remove all the sections from the article. --Musa Talk  06:43, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Your addition has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:33, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

@TheRedPenOfDoom: The Image has been removed but please don't remove sections from the article discuss it on talk page.--Musa Talk  06:35, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

I have been reverting your edits based upon multiple policies. We will start with the non negotiable.

WP:V

" All quotations,... must include an inline citation that directly supports the material." You keep attempting to restore a supposed direct quote from Asrar without providing a citation to the source. That is completely unacceptable.

In addition, our

policies about living people require that claims about a persons religion MUST be sourced to a reliable source were the subject self identifies

.

And furthermore the rest of the policy

properly cited

before restoring.

Even with a source, that quote is

self serving / promotional

and has no place being in an article without it being a response to what third parties have stated about the subject.

Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section#Length states that a good lead is 3-4 paragraphs. Given that this article is three very short paragraphs, it is well within what should be in the lead and well within what is visible in on shot on most desktop screens preventing our readers from having to scroll.

But even if we decided that we wanted to inconvenience our readers and make them scroll, the rest of

WP:LEAD

is clear that the content before the break must be a summary of what comes after the break. Your positioning of the break is just the opposite.

And finally your edit is mal-formatting content. Short works like songs are to be presented in "Quotes", with long form works like films or album presented in italic. The names of buildings and events are presented in normal text. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:13, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Also, you need to be aware that adding unsourced controversial claims about living people violates Wikipedia's

policy on biographies of living people. You can only add these claims back to the article if you have a good source for them. I blocked you for the edit-warring mostly, but this, the quotation sourcing and the image copyright problems were all contributing factors. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪}

06:56, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

@Mr. Stradivarius: That's not fair. I wasn't removing content from an article without any reason but you blocked me just because of TheRedPenOfDoom. He removed all the sections from the article without any reason and I'm blamed for the edit war. I'm blocked from Wikipedia because of this TheRedPenOfDoom. I have told that the image has been removed but there is no need to remove the sections and still if you want to delete all the sections from the article then atleast discuss it on talk page of the article but you didn't listen and blocked me.--Musa Talk  07:03, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

There's no particular policy on whether an article should have more sections or less. You need to discuss that with TheRedPenOfDoom on the article's talk page. But you were editing against policy by reinserting unsourced material on a biography of a living person, and there is no room for discussion there. TheRedPenOfDoom's edits followed policy, and yours did not, which is why I blocked you to stop the edit war rather than blocking TRPoD or fully protecting the article. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 07:20, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

@Mr. Stradivarius: Okay I should have discussed that with TheRedPenOfDoom, But I shouldn't be blocked from Wikipedia. Now I have to wait for a day before getting unblocked.--Musa Talk  07:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

You can always make an unblock request. In fact, if you agree to stop edit warring at

WP:NFCC, you probably won't find it too hard to come to an agreement. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪}

08:42, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I think both parties were edit warring and both parties violated 3rr. I think page should been protected. Admin can full protect the page then these 2 involved parties can have discussion at talk page and can resolve issue. Both are sensible enough though Musa is new and it will take time for him to learn about 3rr, copyvivo and BLP issues.--Human3015^TALK  09:33, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

TheRedPenOfDoom did make four reverts, but it's important to note that reversions of copyright violations and BLP violations are

exceptions to the three-revert rule. Also, if I thought that both users were unambiguously edit warring, then usually I would block them both rather than protecting the page, as that leaves it free for other users to edit. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪}

10:37, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes you are right. I'm not saying you should have blocked TRPoD, I know he is very experienced and policy oriented, we had interaction many times. But I think page protection would have been better option. But anyway, you are experienced admin and you know better than me. Actually I am also relatively new at Wikipedia, actively editing only since 6 months. I myself got blocked 5 times till now for "edit warring", so I just felt bad for Musa, his block log was clear, his edits were in good faith and his intention was not bad though he lacks some policy knowledge. Thank you.--Human3015^TALK  10:52, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Dear Musa Raza,

We are not trying to promoting anything or sell any products and we are trying to tell people about the founder of Angsana Group. We want to do something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pos_Malaysia. We are new to wiki and we hope that you can advise us so that we can improve it instead of deleting our article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ceo yc (talk • contribs) 07:05, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

@Ceo yc: To me your article was like you were trying to promoting so I nominated it for deletion.--Musa Talk  07:09, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Dear Musa, Actually i'm confuse how you defined ours article as promoting and we still have others information haven't added. Please give us more time to make improvement and we really want make our page like pos Malaysia, dhl etc. We hope that you can give a little advise to us also on which sentences might confuse people or make you feel that we are selling stuff or promoting something. Your kind advise are much appreciate. Please help. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ceo yc (talk • contribs) 07:17, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

In this edit to Hamza Ali Abbasi you added a year of birth that is not included in the corresponding source and you used the edit summary "copyedit (minor)", which is misleading. Given our previous conversation regarding sources I made it very clear that policy states you cannot add or change material in articles to say something that is not verified in the accompanying sources. Your inability to grasp this is frustrating at best and ultimately disruptive. --Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 19:04, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

@Ponyo: Okay, I won't do that again.
Thank You--Musa Talk  19:22, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! --Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 19:25, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I've declined the speedy for both of those right now as I am not sure of the notability requirements. I have posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Ján Gerthofer and. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 23:54, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I'm Human3015. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Ján Gerthofer, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Human3015^TALK  02:42, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I'm Human3015. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Gustav Francsi, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Human3015^TALK  02:42, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Musa Raza. I removed your good-faith question, because

Hi Musa Raza, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on

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• What is the reason of this revertion? [1] 109.108.251.119 (talk) 10:12, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

@109.108.251.119: Your edit has been restored.--Musa Talk  10:14, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

• It's not my edit. But what is a reason? Did you use Twinkle incorrectly? Missclick? IP user hating? 109.108.251.119 (talk) 10:16, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

@109.108.251.119: Why should I tell you?--Musa Talk  10:17, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Musa,

Could you please stop changing my nationality from Pakistani to Pakistani-American. I am not Pakistani American. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.38.165.179 (talk) 18:04, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for uploading