User talk:ShockerHelp

Hi. I just wanted to inform you that a thread has been started at AN/I in regard to your recent edits on Indie Spotlight. You are, of course, welcome to make comments there. - Bilby (talk) 14:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you striking out text within this article? --Onorem♠Dil 22:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The content struck was irrelevant to the topic, or obviously false, with no verification to suggest otherwise.ShockerHelp (talk) 22:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A quick glance at one of the references would lead me to disagree, but I don't have time to look into it more at the moment. I'll have to look again in a bit. --Onorem♠Dil 22:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Shocker Toys' webstore (http://www.shockertoys.com/store.php) does not include the two convention exclusives as part of the proposed Indie Spotlight line of action figures. The Shocker Toys' website product page (http://www.shockertoys.com/products.php) does not include them as part of the proposed Indie Spotlight line of action figures. Indeed, the description from the product page ("Indie Spotlight will feature 20+ pts of articulation in every 6"-8" inch scaled figure.") would suggest that a Maxx Mini figure (~2") and an unarticuated Scud statue would clearly not be part of the theoretical line which is the topic of the article. The inclusion of the "Shoulder Action Figure" in the History section seems equally out of place. These were never released, and they had nothing to do with the proposed line of Indie Spotlight action figures. ShockerHelp (talk) 23:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

These other toys were only brought up after WP:Crystal was raised in the delete article discussion. They are irrelevant. ShockerHelp (talk) 23:30, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WIKI's definition of a Citation: A citation is a reference to a source (not always the original source), published or unpublished.--JMST (talk) 13:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ShockerHelp Please stop removing all links from Shocker Toys without posting to the discussion page to come to a concensus! Also you made the reference section all messed up with duplicate links.--JMST (talk) 22:38, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, ShockerHelp. I just wanted to make a suggestion-- I've noticed you and JMST have been fighting a while now, and I think it would help if you just gave her some space. I'm glad that you're trying to keep others from violating policy, but comments like You did not create this article. Someone else using the JMST name created this article, as is readily apparent by comparing the quality of writing of what you just posted to the other very, very poorly written things done under the JMST name. are counterproductive. I realize JMST has been rude and violated a couple policies, but my advice would be to please don't do and say things simply because you know they provoke her. Editors fighting editors never goes anywhere, and unless someone has maliciously done something against the rules (which JMST hasn't done), you don't have any reason to be so agressive. I just wanted to let you know. Cheers. Friginator (talk) 22:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing wrong with quoting their website(a first party source), as long as it's made clear that it is from their website. For example,

On January 12th, Shocker confirmed that the series has left the factory and will be shipping soon

Would not be appropriate, as the first-party source is, as you said, unreliable, and is POV in their favor. However,

On January 12th, Shocker announced on their website that the series has left the factory and should be shipping soon, saying...

would be fine, because it is simply a statement of fact. The quote appears on Shocker's website, and Wikipedia would simply be documenting that, not what it actually claims. I removed the "music personalities" statement because "manufacturing" is in the present tense, and Shocker is no longer making the Gwar figure. Thanks. Friginator (talk) 05:12, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's cool. I would leave off all together that Shocker has announced that the series has left the factory until a reliable, non-first party source could confirm it. Since only Shocker Toys has said that the series would be shipping in December, and now they are saying that they shipped in January, I think it is safe to say that the announced shipping in December clearly did not happen. ShockerHelp (talk) 05:25, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to have a habit of reverting any changes people make to the Shocker Toys article. Thank you for correcting any punctuation or grammar problems I may have made, but the info I included is perfectly valid and should be kept. There is no need to immediately remove anything you deem unneccesary. I know ST has a history of announcing product that was not or has not been released, but the Mallow section should be kept for now. If, say, in 6 months there is no evidence of the line ever being released then it could be reverted, but please leave it for the time being. It is something that was not officially announced (in any major way) until a few days ago, and there is enough output such as the prototype and designs that it could be a section, as the Indie Spotlight and Shockini lines are included (and rightly so). According to Shocker, the figures displayed at NYCC were the finished product, though the rest of the figures weren't made in time. Thanks. Friginator (talk)

Okay, please refrain from edit warring, and immediately reverting any changes. My changes were not solely based on presumptions, (save for one sentence fragment), so please, only revert that which you see as specifically violating policy, instead of reverting the whole edit. Also, please use talk pages. If you have a problem, discuss it without further edit warring. Thank you. Friginator (talk) 01:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, how about you stop immediately changing my edits. Works both ways. We don't know what will happen with the line six months from now. So, stop trying to predict it in wiki articles, please. ShockerHelp (talk) 01:34, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have to be snarky about it. All I'm saying is that reverting everything immediately isn't how Wikipedia works. If you think something violates policy, please remove it instead of reverting the whole edit. I'm not predicting anything. Shocker is planning to release a product, so that's what I wrote. If you don't like the phrasing, change it. Edit warring and being rude to other editors doesn't help anything. Thank you. Friginator (talk) 03:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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