User talk:Sjorford/Archive 2
Talk: UK Roads • Football
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Hey, I just ran across this, well Whobot did :) I see it was your temp article until the other one was through with copyvio. I see that is done now and wondered if you were through with the temp file. Thanks. «»Who?¿?meta 10:01, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
- Ok, done. Thanks for the reply and the rv of the anon. Cheers. «»Who?¿?meta 10:51, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
i'm tammie born 'n' bred and i can assure you it's pronounced 'tammoth (as well, of course, as tamworth) in tamworth... 85.57.160.190 19:56, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
browser problems
thanks for telling me about that, i really had no idea. ill try to check my reverts to make sure they went ok from now on. sorry about that. --Phinnaeus • T+Σ 19:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Eng-club-stub renamed to England-footyclub-stub
I noticed several of your user subpages linked to it, so I thought I'd let you know it's been renamed to {{
List of British MPs not elected from a major party
I could fill in some, though not all, of the details on the List of MPs not from a major party. PatGallacher 11:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Revert on Manchester United F.C.
Thanks for doing that. File:Yemen flag large.png CTOAGN (talk) 17:17, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Player list page
Hi Sjorford - I'm making a subpage with a list of football players by country. Since you've already done something like that (on a rather bigger scale though!), I was just wondering if you could tell me if there is another way of getting the lists other than copy-paste from the respective category pages. Thanks. Aabha (talk) 13:17, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
< and > xml codes
I created them because I tried to look up the codes on wikipedia and didn't see anything, so... If I looked for the page, someone else might, so it might add some value to wikipedia. In other words, why not? Disambig pages are cheap. --Quasipalm 14:40, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- I didn't realize that they wouldn't come up through search; I usually bypass search and go directly for the URL myself, which is how I came to the page to begin with. I still think they are harmless at least and potentially useful to someone at best; but if you want to put up an AfD, that's fine. --Quasipalm 19:08, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Michael Jackson move
I'm not really sure this does need to be moved, and it certainly shouldn't be moved without discussion at Wikipedia:Requested moves first. sjorford (talk) 22:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late reply. I thought that the article needed to be moved as it would be more recognisable to the readers; there are over 15 "Michael Jacksons" on Wikipedia and this would set apart the "entertainer" from the "actor" or the "politician" etc (Please see: Seal (device), Seal (1991 album)and so fourth.
- Lastly, you stated that it should not be moved without discussion at Wikipedia:Requested moves, but that page is only for moves that require Admins or would otherwise prove controversial. As I thought that this edit wouldn't offend anyone, was commonsense, uncontroversal and simple, I made the change myself. I apologise if this edit crossed the line, and I realise that I should have even provided a brief explanation on the talk page; I was either very lazy—which is bad— or was rushing off the computer as I was late for work :). Sorry again. If you still have any concerns with any simple or Admin related actions, please dont hesitate to comment on it. (I will place this message on the talk page of the article.) Oran e (t) (c) (e-mail) 03:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Replied
i replied to u on my page, just letting u know incase im not on ur watchlist :) --Unforgettableid | Talk to me 22:40, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Sportbio-stub census and restubbing
I'd like to get that out of the way ASAP so it can be archived on the
Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article improvement drive
Hi Sjorford,
The Football AID is restarting. The next project article is to be selected on January 1, 2006. Please look at the nominations and take part actively. Thanks. -Aabha (talk) 10:32, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Merlyn-Rees
Cheers, I've PA at work so just pulled it of and pasted it. I thought that if you attributed the source you were cool. My mistake.
I'm also a bit of a British Politics geek so will probably talk again.
Cheers, M
10-year TV shows
Hi. Thanks for contributing to my work-in-progress. Question: how did you find it? I thought user temp pages were unlisted. No complaints - I wasn't planning to release my list into the world until it had a goodly amount of names on it. Cheers! 23skidoo 02:17, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
- I'd forgotten about "What links here". Please feel free to add any more shows that come to mind. Cheers! 23skidoo 16:25, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
British football transfer record
Steve Daley's fee was £1,437,500, and was on 5 September 1979, so was probably before Andy Gray. The BBC and the FA sites both call Trevor Francis the first £1 million player. Oldelpaso 12:26, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
- All the Manchester City reference books I have at hand use £1,437,500 for Daley. I seem to remember official club publications using that figure (it was a club record for about 15 years). I'll have to dig out Manchester: The Greatest City which is very well researched and ought to shed more light on the matter. Oldelpaso 14:46, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Central Devon
Hey - I have (re)started creating articles for the red links in
Just wanted to let you know the page has now been created.
doktorb | words 17:37, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for comment. I have double checked. Sylvia Heal does not appear in the wikipedia List of current members of the British Privy Council nor is she listed as a privy councillor in the list of MPs held on the Parliamentary website. [1] It is not automatic that a deputy speaker is a privy councillor, indeed the current speaker was formally a deputy speaker but did not become a privy councillor until he was elected speaker in 2000. Unless she has slipped the lists I dont think she is a privy councillor.
Have removed stub for privy council Rob Streatham 21:47, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi Sjorford. I was going to nominate this article for speedy deletion under {{db-club}}, but I see you have linked to it at User:Sjorford/Football 1 on what seems to be a quite comprehensive list. Just wondering if you wouldn't mind expanding this little stub slightly. As the article stands, it doesn't sound like a very interesting club at all.:P Thanks, pfctdayelise 04:43, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree they should be used with caution... which is why I reversed mine as soon as I checked the whatlinkshere. Of course, I should've done that first. :) Thankyou. pfctdayelise 09:58, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Constituency changes
Hey - I've noticed your "playpen" links to a few more constituency articles that has recently been created. Blackpool North and Fleetwood, and Lancaster and Wyre, have been in for a while but your page linked to "...&..", which I hope you don't mind I've changed to fix the link.
On the Cotswold/Cotswolds article, I've not created a new page, just noted on the existing page that the name will change. Should do the same with Taunton/Taunton Deane, never got round to it.
I've only a few pages left on
You have been nominated
Please visit Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Sjorford 2, as it appears that someone has nominated you for adminship. Please be sure to sign your life away acceptance to the nomination at your convenience. Best regards, Hall Monitor 22:08, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations
Hey there. Congratulations, you've just been made a sysop! You've volunteered to do housekeeping duties that normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops can't do a lot of stuff: They can't delete pages just like that (except junk like "LALALALAL*&*@#@THIS_SUXX0RZ"), and they can't protect pages in an edit war they are involved in. But they can delete random junk, ban anonymous vandals, delete pages listed on
- I would like to congratulate you on your recent success. You deserve it and have fun on your newly acquired responsibilities! Siva1979Talk to me 13:42, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed, congratulations sjorford, I know you will make an excellent addition to our talented pool of administrators. Best regards, Hall Monitor 22:26, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Dear sjorford, I couldn't believe you were not an admin already; the shock blinded me for days. And we should talk about how to deal with MDY articles and ]
Hi, In trying to vote on second AfD I seem to have deleted the result of first. Sorry! I've copied it to the talk page but can't seem to be able to get it back where it belongs - I'm going to leave this for someone more knowledgeable to fix. Dlyons493 Talk 20:47, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- P.S. Note that128.103.186.226 seems to have changed a vote from delete to keep in the previous AfD. There was been a lot of vandalism in the course of that AfD and there's already been one blanking incident on this one. Dlyons493 Talk 20:51, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Current events
There seem to be monthly current events pages for all years since the start of WP. And daily current events pages for a few of them; they should really be redirected... unless we want to reverse the process, and create daily CE pages for each day (and perhaps transclude them into the monthly page). +sj + 19:56, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I did mean to blank it for now (I was in the middle of working on the page, then I had to attend my classes). -Sstrieu 20:44, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Request for Reversion
Hey Sjoford. I saw you'd previously reverted the article on
Month Pages
I didn't notice the structure of the month pages until after I offered up the AfD. But I'm wondering... is that format the standard? I notice that the more recent months (
Thanks
Thanks for the help there. JoshuaZ 00:08, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Shane Meadows
Hello, I spotted Shane Meadows on your to-do page. I have recently created it per Wikipedia:Articles for creation. JIP | Talk 18:29, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Renaming Category:England footballers
Further to our discussions the other day, I've now listed a proposed renaming it to
What you removed was not a self refernce but a link to Wikipedia:Once upon a time...Myrtone (the strict Australian wikipedian)(talk):-(
Stuff I posted on US History
Thanks for comment. Being an administrator, hope you might help.
I'm a middle-school American history teacher and have been compiling subject-connected quotations -- "primary source documents" in US educrat talk. Since the connecting thread is the topic in American History -- WWI, Roaring 20s, Depression, New Deal, WW II -- regular Wikipedia seemed best place to post, as opposed to quotations on a specific topic or those of one specific source.
I hope I'm on the right track, my goal being to provide an on-line location for "primary sources" for my students and any other reader/student of US history wanting to use them.
ANY comments/help/remarks are very appreciated, this being my first attempt at posting.
From distressed to impressed
Thank you for your nice and kind comments on my first entry into this wikipedia world.
Your action to remove my entry of willimagine was well justified. Wekipedia is indeed not a place for self-pity or self-proclaim. I am sorry about my naivety and ignorance.
I am seeing your prompt and kind feedback as a source of support, from wikipedia, as well as from the e-communities in general. I am now gaining more confidence, and am still learning.
Thanks again and talk to you later.
Willimagine 09:14, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Props for the good article on Mr. Cook (the investigative journalist)! --84.68.72.46 20:49, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Endless article craziness
Hey. I very much agree with the comment you left on my talk page--in fact, you'll note I apologize for moving the page incorrectly on the requested moves page itself. However, I still can't fix the problems with the locations of this particular group of articles because I'm not an admin. Perhaps you can help me out. Here's the deal:
- The Endless (comics) should then probably be deleted or set to redirect to the new The Endlessarticle. I'm not sure what the Wikipedia policy is on having articles with parenthetical tags that describe the main article page. My guess would be redirection.
- The Endless (comics) (I didn't do this) should be turned into a redirect to the new The Endless(as changed above) or deleted.
The Endless (disambiguation) doesn't exist, so I can move the page(s) that are around already serving as disambig pages there, and I can also do all the other cleanup myself. I just can't move articles to locations in which something (erroneously) already exists. Want to help? Drasil 22:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! It's been so long since my original request that I pretty much forget. I was thinking perhaps I could look for three sources about him, jot down some essential info, and write it up in my own words with a list of references. Does that sound reasonable? Then maybe someone else can correct me on formatting. Queerwiki 17:17, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Articles you may like to do
Hello! I was just wandering when you would do the seasons of English football articles. There are quite a number of seasons which do not have articles on their own and you had expresssed interest in doing them. As I do not have information about them and the other seasons which you had done were quite impressive, I hope you would be able to complete them if you had the time. Have you lost interest in doing them? --Siva1979Talk to me 09:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I hope that you do NOT lose this interest completely! You are doing a great job and I hate to see these seasons without having any articles on Wikipedia. --Siva1979Talk to me 17:09, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Lyn Me
I didn't propose it. If you look in the history, user ScannerX put up the move request but didn't sign it. I just added my opposition to it. - Hbdragon88 21:09, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Changing page List of U.S. States having 10 or more area codes
It is my understanding that simply removing the content of a page without even giving a discussion or question on the matter is tantamount to vandalism. I feel that your changing of the page
Christopher Reeve
Please refrain from any further vandalism of the
-H2C
The above paragraph was originally posted by User:Hobson's Second Choice. It replaced the previous page contents completely. I have reverted and added it to the bottom instead. Thank you. Charm ©† 07:31, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Cropping letterbox bars
Hey there, I submitted that Hugh Laurie photo you cropped and I was wondering how you did that. I want to do it do another one. GusF 00:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't have that software myself, I'm sorry to say. The picture is "Image:Luke looking upset.jpg". You'll find it on the Aaron Himelstein page, it's the second one. Thanks in advance. GusF 14:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks for fixing the "Aaron Himelstein" image. GusF 16:52, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Looking for some admin help
Can you help me out with the vandalism going on on
Well, why can't it be created? I have a lot of sources that says there will be a fifth movie. Cigammagicwizard 00:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
IT'S FINALLY ON IMDb! I TOLD YOU IT WAS GOING TO BE MADE, BUT NO! You didn't listen. I'm always right but no one ever listens to me! Here's the link: [2]! Cigammagicwizard 00:19, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Constituencies in next UK election...
Hey - cheers for the additions to the list of the proposed constituencies. I got a bit muddled around the release of the T&W proposals, wasn't sure if I had missed any seats out. It seems I did, so thanks for the update!
doktorb | words 15:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- Aah, yeah, the Reports on the London Boroughs are really difficult to trawl through. So many "piggy backed" releases with revised and finalised propoals all together as one. It would be no surprise if there are an odd couple or so left out. Thinking off the top of my head no obvious missed-out Borough springs to mind but if there any, a big thank you for finding them and helping out! doktorb | words 15:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Nice
Good use of the dude Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jana_Bennett. I see on that AfD I was out of my element.
RM otheruses/Golden Mile
...in which case, why not do a proper job and remove the otheruses tag from the other Golden Miles? WLD 19:53, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Motive
Hello, The piece of story you have cited in your page is a motive. Nice contribution. -- Srinivasaraju 21:03, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:House.jpg
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Thanks for uploading
Please go to
If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Jkelly 20:54, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Problem involving renaming article
Hello. I am having trouble renaming a certain article.
I am wishing to change the article
Thanks.
- Tv145033 20:35, 16 May 2006 (UTC)]
Sorry....
....I formatted incorrectly all those Football Club History Database links you've had to change..... :-( ChrisTheDude 14:05, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Beverley and Holderness (UK Parliament constituency)
I didnt know that a project existed for constituencies - apologies for moving it. However, I think its confusing (as someone who uses wiki for info related to uk parliament constituencies) that some are named with the (UK P.. C..) end bit and some aren't - it should really be one way or the other!
Seasons in English football
Hello! I hope you are doing fine. I would like to inform you that ALL the seasons in English football which do not have their own articles yet, are in the request page. I would also like to know whether you are still interested in creating the remaing articles. If not, can you please tell me where can I get the information about this subject matter on the web? I intend to finish creating them from where you left off but I do not have any references for doing this. Thank You for your time and understanding! --Siva1979Talk to me 20:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
GFDL image need to be attributed. On Wikipedia, we accomplish this without having a big "made by User:Rory096" on a page by linking to the description page with that information. By making the image clickable to the portal, we don't attribute the image, violating the GFDL. --Rory096 16:24, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- The best thing to do is probably to find another image released into the public domain, so it doesn't require attribution. --Rory096 16:45, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Truck Festival
Good job on Truck Festival. Davodd 06:09, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
spelling
Sorry about that - I use automated scripts to look for common spelling mistakes, so I don't always see the edit in its entire context. I try to edit on a delay so I don't get bogged down with poorly spelled vandalism, but sometimes I miss. --
Please do not remove my comments from the Main Talk page. Perhaps you might endeavour to read all of the preceeding discussion before doing so. Thanks. --Cactus.man ✍ 17:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- No problem, thanks for getting back to me. I was just a bit flabbergasted to have my first revert for "vandalism". Happy editing. --Cactus.man ✍ 09:28, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
AFD Yesterday
Will take care of it, should be correct in the next LDBot update at 0:00UTC. --lightdarkness (talk) 13:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Big font for sport in MK
I was trying to make the title at least proportionate with the sub-headings. But I suppose what you've done is what it says in the MoS. --
List of Sydney Skyscrapers
As for the merge, i say delete
Please see
- I'd just assumed you've never seen it. I wouldn't call leaving a note your talk page blindly reverting. But sure, dump Spanair down to the bottom of the list. thanks/wangi 16:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Please do not modify closed AfD discussions.
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been
- I find it quite depressing that for that I get a boilerplate warning. At least put some feeling into it. — sjorford++ 08:14, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- Glad to oblige. Ahem: Thank you for pointlessly adding scare quotes to a closed AfD discussion. Your method to deal with too much spare time worked, and it has been these articles in need for any other formatting you would like to inflict on helpless chunks of text. Take a look at the clinic on our premises if you would like to learn more about how to cope with your situation. :-) Best, Sandstein 19:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)]
- Glad to oblige. Ahem: Thank you for pointlessly adding scare quotes to a closed AfD discussion. Your method to deal with too much spare time worked, and it has been
Userbox admin
Please do not revert it again the one with the image violates
Also please read the talk page and join in the discussion. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 16:20, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Regarding edits made during
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 16:26, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- I warned you, please do not readd the image it violates rules! Matthew Fenton (contribs) 16:26, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Violation of 3RR and not discusing on the talk.
Hello, I have made a report at
Arjen Robben
I'm not paranoid. They really are all out to get us. ;-) SteveO 14:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- PS. Do you think it's worth semi-protecting the page? SteveO 15:23, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
plurals
I agree with the reference that "team" behaves as plural, but surely "club" is singular? It's not worth an edit war! --
Danny Webb
Ah, gotcha... although as the Emmerdale one has only appeared in Emmerdale so far, maybe he could either stay where he is or move to Danny Webb (television actor). Tim! 18:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Happy Birthday!
Jorcoga 05:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Have a good one :) -Ladybirdintheuk 08:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Enjoy! Mr. Turcottetalk 00:45, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks one and all! I think I had a good birthday, although I don't remember much of it :) — sjorford++ 08:21, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
RE:Minor football divisions
I have presented my answers to your questions here. On a personal note, I have to disagree with you here. The lack of "notability" exclusively is not a criterion for deletion. --Siva1979Talk to me 16:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
- I have added further comments here. --Siva1979Talk to me 22:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Re: Helsinki mistake
No probs, has happened to me too :) thank you for correcting my misstake with the reference anyhow :)
Gillis 21:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Football subpage update
As requested, I'm notifiying you of a change to your football page as the Bedford & District League is now the Bedfordshire League. I think I've done all the moves and edits, but time will tell! - fchd 17:25, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks for that user box code! Æon Insane Ward 12:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Diacritics and page moves
Hi! Recently several editors, including yourself, have reverted edits by User:Gene Nygaard which moved pages to diacriticless titles, or expressed concern at the moves on his talk page. Despite this, Gene has carried on making many moves of this type, some of which will require admin work to revert - this behaviour is becoming disruptive, and is reducing consistency in article naming schemes. Further comments, suggestions and opinions would be welcome either at User talk:Gene Nygaard or at the section started by Renata3 at
- Hi. I noticed you reverted some more of Gene's rather ill-advised page moves today- I've left a further note at AN/I. Any further comments or suggestions for what to do next would be appreciated. Aquilina 18:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for continuing to fix all these moves. You should not have to be doing this, but it is much appreciated that you do; he's just started again (e.g. Santo Espírito), but hopefully something will happen to stop this continuing. Thanks once more, Aquilina 12:01, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
There will be a Scary Movie 5!
- Can you come to the discussion page? There are more scources to prove that there will be a fifth.
Fixing CNRs
Please do not bypass redirects on pages that talk about redirects such as Wikipedia talk:Redirects for discussion. Thank you, Kusma (討論) 10:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- Not a problem. Could you put Welcome, newcomer on your to-do list? See [3]. Thanks, and happy editing, Kusma (討論) 10:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Redlinks and dab pages
Thanks for your message. I totally disagree. Red links are not bad (they are a means for the encyclopedia to grow) and links pointing to dab pages are bad (there isn't any benefit to pointing to a list of things that mean something else when the correct link is known). Mrsteviec 12:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Cross-namespace redirects
Hmm, good point. I don't see a way around this, though, besides removing RfD from the list, which I already do (and manually reviewing every edit). --Rory096 19:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've never reviewed every edit. I review about 10 to make sure the regexes are working properly, then let the bot do the rest. I've bypassed over 9,000 CNRs, which would have taken massive amounts of time if I reviewed each one. --Rory096 20:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- This doesn't just take a couple hours. I have about 20,000 edits in 8 months. Doing just the redirects I've done would take several months of not doing anything else, not to mention the thousands that have yet to be bypassed. In that amount of time, I could have annoyed joshbuddy enough to make him write a human-like robot that would check every page and still do it in record time. It's just infeasible to manually check everything. --Rory096 20:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Look Who’s Stalking
Sorry, but THAT doesn’t make any sense. --Tobias Schmidbauer 15:51, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Your PRODs of Inchinnan F.C., Jocelyn Stadium and Michael Mungai
I noticed that all three were created by
- Thanks for the fast reply. All right, here goes... --Guinnog 09:48, 7 September 2006 (UTC)]
- Done. I suggest we keep an eye on this user in future. I'll be interested to see if he replies to my message. --Guinnog 09:54, 7 September 2006 (UTC)]
- Done. I suggest we keep an eye on this user in future. I'll be interested to see if he replies to my message. --
Episode titles - reply
I'm aware of the naming conventions for episode titles for wikipedia (and elsewhere), however, the actual title of the episode uses the incorrect grammar. See tv.com (under "notes") and this site. Thanks. -th1rt3en 15:51, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Okeydoke then, as long as that's the wikipedia standard. -th1rt3en 16:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thanks for moving back
Hi Sjorford, thanks for moving back Ferhat Çökmüş to the real name without a request. I've already requested this from an admin but he didn't move it back. Cheers --Ugur Basak 13:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thanks for fixing my sloppiness
don't think I even looked at what boxes were in that example Eitch 17:29, 18 September 2006 (UTC)