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Speedy deletion nomination of Graves of Valor
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July 2009
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August 2009
Speedy deletion nomination of Revocation (band)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Empire of the Obscene
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Speedy deletion nomination of Existence is Futile
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Speedy deletion nomination of Inevitable End
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Speedy deletion nomination of 16 (band)
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Copyright problems with 16 (band)
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Reply to your comment at the Inevitable End talk page
Please understand something here, Inevitable End may be a real band as you say but I could very well make a band (which is fake) and record a demo for instance but that doesn't mean that it's real and that it should be on Wikipedia. You need to back up your information such as the statement: "well known within the heavy metal community" with a
- I very much understand how hard it is for underground metal bands to be sourced properly. Even most of WikiProject metal has trouble sourcing the more underground bands because of the lack of strictly heavy metal sources. The thing is they may never chart but charting is not the only way to pass WP:MUSIC, there are many other components to a band's notability, such as: having material aired on a notable radio station (as hard as it is for metal bands), contributing material (songs or etc.) for a tv show, film or video game that is notable or has released two studio albums on a major label (they do have one so far so if they release another by them then they would pass). The amount of fans a band has is irrelevant and not notable unless an outside source (third party) covers them. Well, I wouldn't say there's noone documenting/writing about heavy metal, there are a few such as Garry-Sharpe Young who has published many detailed books on heavy metal topics and has written many biographies for bands (one being Inevitable End on the MusicMightsite), more published books by Kahn Harris, the heavy metal documentary by Sam Dunn and a few others.
- I know too well that heavy metal is loved the world over but Wikipedia is strict on notability and if a band can't quite make it then they don't deserve a page. That is just how it works on Wikipedia. If an article on a notable band with 12 studio albums released by a notable label was created it would still be deleted because it didn't indicate any kind of notability in context. Basically google "is your friend", search for reliable sources and make sure they match the criteria for third party sources. They could be anything from allmusiccould be a good bet. Interviews to members are ok but are mostly for trivial matters or for some inside info and the like but should never exclusively be used as sources.
- I'm not sure what you mean by opinion posts, do you mean blogs or something similar? Opinions can be appropriate if they don't en mass to one side being bad and the other being good. Article must be on neutral termsand should not go too far one way or the other but I'm not sure if this is what you meant by opinion posts. It is surely something good to know when creating an article though. No you don't sound angry to me. Just a bit troubled which is normal to new Wikipedia users. I had my fair share of notability problems and deleted articles because of it in my early days of Wikipedia as well but soon came to understand and respect them. So I hope you do too.
- I think it would be a good call to make a subpage where you can work out an article before copying it and making it into an article. A subpage can be created by putting your user name and a slash at the end like this: User:T0778kj/subpage. You can name it whatever you like but remember to exclude things such as categories and images, etc because it is not an official article. You can have the article userfied for you before it is deleted or you can copy it all for yourself and work on it without the worry of deletion. Having thousands of fans sign a petition would not work. I assure you, I have seen it before in some AFDs and most (if not all) were ignored for not having a good reason to keep the article. In some way I am sure something I said has helped you!
- FireCrystal (talk) 05:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Coliseum (band)
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