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Sandbox
How do I place a written article in the sandbox? --Jazzitsax (talk) 18:34, 1 July 2009 (UTC) Michael
Not sure what you mean, and why you ask a bot. Edit the page? --Dirk BeetstraTC 18:41, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Spider loc
I just wanna know why my editing on the spider loc page was taking down all i wrote about were true facts that are on his website spiindastreets.com and interviews i heard. --CrookMusic (talk) 21:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)CrookMusic
Youtube links often have problems (one of more of: user supplied, non reliable, copyright, indirectly linked, etc. etc.), and therefore generally not suitable as a link. However, if this is an exception, just revert the bot (I would say here that it still needs a better source than the video itself!). I hope this explains. --Dirk BeetstraTC 08:25, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
The bot just reverted my addition of links to the respective articles about these books on a wikia wiki about the universe they are set in. Are wikia links not allowed any more, or what? -- 77.188.222.71 (talk) 12:38, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
By God this is complicated, I am sitting here with the artist uploading a bio and photo that I have permission to use from Farrell herself yet a WARNING message keeps popping up saying it reads like an advert and needs sourcing? In the photo upload we indicated who the permission was given from. What else do we need to provide?? All this info is also available on all her web sites.
Please read the text in the warnings, the messages and the tags. You may be in compliance with our policies and guidelines, amd you may have indicated that, but apparently you have not properly indicated that. Also for the tags, don't remove them yourself, try to improve the article and others will remove them. They are an issue there! --Dirk BeetstraTC 09:49, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Question
I say this edit. Could you please refer me to the proper guideline? Debresser (talk) 08:52, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes,
WP:ELNO #12. Twice added to top of list, this is more important than others? Nah, this might actually be COI-spammy. Please note that the bot is designed and approved to revert additions of external links that almost always fail policies or guidelines. Wikia links almost always do (and when added by unregistered or new users, that increases). --Dirk BeetstraTC
09:47, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Didn't know that #12. Debresser (talk) 12:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
The bot is not only to combat spam... --Dirk BeetstraTC 18:41, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Per RFC 2606, www.example.com, www.example.net, and www.example.org are preferred addresses for documentation and testing purposes, and are reserved from being registered. Can you provide some rationale for blacklisting these addresses? Wikipedia is the sort of place for which they were explicitly created. Asmor (talk) 18:39, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Pardon? Wikipedia is the sort of place for which they were explicitly created? They are very often mistakenly or uselessly inserted, and I think that by far the most of the reverts of example.com are not appropriate additions. Still, there will be some, but that is also true for any other link that is reverted by the bot (even for some of the hardcore porn sites). Please note, that this bot is designed to revert external links which are added inappropriately, which includes spam, but does not exclude other cases where links are added inappropriately. Some examples:
When I have time I will do some statistics, but I think really that the large majority of the reverts is OK as they do include example.com in an inappropriate place. Note that the bot notifies (does not warn) on first revert, and that then the safeguards will not revert again. I hope this explains. --Dirk BeetstraTC 19:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Tipton Wikia link
Hey, you sent me a message saying that you deleted my link. That was not spam, it was a reliable link. I need to keep it there. It aint spam. Thanks, bot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.179.244.115 (talk) 06:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, if you read the message, you would have seen "If the external link you inserted or changed was to an external
'links to avoid' #12).". This is not a stable wiki, and hence is not a suitable external link. I have re-reverted the addition. Thanks. --Dirk BeetstraTC
10:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
In Response to Codeblack Entertainment
The external links that reference Codeblack are to reference Codeblack Entertainment. All companies have external links to their official websites. What is wrong with linking to Codeblack.com which is the corporate site for the company. Also while I have your attention I would like to know how to do an info box on the left side of the page which will show the company logo and other facts about the company.
our conflict of interest guideline. I think you are right that the link belongs on Codeblack pages themselves (but don't overdo it), just undo the bot-edit as suggested. I hope this explains. --Dirk BeetstraTC
18:32, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Help with my page
I have tried to enhance the piece on Greg Mort, living artist, but it seems to keep getting deleted. Can you review it -- I did source it.
Susan Fifer Canby—Preceding unsigned comment added by Susan fifer canby (talk • contribs)
I see an editor already offered help on your talkpage, you might want to read through the policies and guidelines as suggested. Thanks. --Dirk BeetstraTC 18:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
I added a link of historycal vidoe posted on Youtube. Bot removed it. What should I do?
I added a link of historycal vidoe posted on Youtube. Bot removed it. What should I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Contemplor (talk • contribs) 17:08, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, the warning says it all. Check the video thoroughly for copyright problems, and read
the external links guideline. This link surely does not belong at the top of the list, so I reverted and suggest you suggest the link on the talkpage, and discuss its addition there first. I hope this explains. --Dirk BeetstraTC
17:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Goapele Wikipedia page
RESPONSE: That's fine if you just reverted one link but were you the one who erased all the revisions and new content I provided for Goapele's page which came from 2 hours of meticulous research? Did you erase all the easily accessible Billboard chart action and corresponding reference links seen on every other musicians Wikipedia page but this one? I would really like to know because now her page is back to a myriad of discrepancies. You see "Chocolate" was never a single and changeitall.org doesn't exist. I thought the purpose of Wikipedia was to keep information as factual and consistent as possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pageofmusic2 (talk • contribs) 04:08, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Just undo the edit, and remove the link that the bot had a problem with (or leave it if it is OK). It will not revert you again. --Dirk BeetstraTC 18:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
The City of London Migraine Clinic
Could you explain why you removed the links and edits made to the The City of London Migraine Clinics page. These links provide access to a website and videos that provide very useful information regarding migraine. It is a non-profit charity and a leading national research and outpatient service. The youtube link is marked as going to youtube and I will now mark as a video external website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssim24 (talk • contribs) 08:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I'll refer you to
the external links guideline, youtube video's can be informative, and if you believe that this link is really adding, just undo the bot as suggested. --Dirk BeetstraTC
18:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Wikis
Well this bot removed the link I posted... as links to avoid' #12 says, thats why it got removed. I don't think is fair to not allow external wiki links (lost, heros, pokemon, and otheres have his wikis listed am sure at some point they got 0 articles, but they are listed on the wikipedia pages), if people does not know a wikipedia exist how it is going to grow bigger? If people read the wikipedia article and see that theres a wikipedia with information only related to that article they will go to that wiki and find more information and help it to grow. If its abouth spam...I could remove the link if the wikia site dies after a month or 2 oks? --200.91.125.234 (talk) 20:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Wikia links are simply very often a problem. Still, as you say, some are OK, and if this is such a case, then please undo the bot's edit as suggested (and I would not even use this wiki as an external link ..). --Dirk BeetstraTC 18:29, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, the links to the Queer-videos on youtube are wrong. At least I get an "invalid video ID"-message when clicking the link. Without the '/' at the end the links work fine. However, the bot reverted my edit so now the links are wrong again. -.-
Any way to correct the links permanently without the bot getting upsed? --84.142.240.140 (talk) 16:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Just undo the bot edit, it will not revert you again. Are you sure that these links have to be there at all? Please see
That was actually me who added that YouTube video to the Sonic X article. I knew before about YouTube links not being allowed, but I thought it was due to official reasons. That video file was from 4Kids Entertainment's official channel, 4KidsTV. The thing is, 4Kids is adding uncut episodes of the Sonic X anime to their channel, and I needed a link as proof, as many otaku wish of the same thing and would unsurprisingly add things like that with no proof. Is there any alternative to this method? Matty-chan (talk) 19:04, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, yes, include it in a proper reference (see
WP:CRYSTAL) needs a rewrite and WAY better references than a (now deleted) video on YouTube. I hope this explains. --Dirk BeetstraTC
19:12, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Pocket God
Erm... Pocket God Forums exists, and it is VERY close with Pocket God, and I think you should put things back the way I made them, please. If one of the links breaks a rule, then I have no problem with you deleting it. Deleting the entire section was a little harsh :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.94.138.45 (talk) 23:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Choice of setting, this is generally leaving less problems (as removing specific links is very tricky, if not impossible). Just click undo, repair the edit, and save. Hope this explains. --Dirk BeetstraTC 21:40, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Edit sections that contain derogatory remarks
Need help. Please explain to me why I can't edit section that contains derogatory remarks about adult children without it reverting to original text. The text is offensive to me and to thousands of others because it has nothing to do with Senator Frist. Any help you can give me in understanding the procedures would be greatly appreciated.
Not sure what you are asking? Are you referring to an XLinkBot revert? In that case you may have inserted an 'questionable' external link. --Dirk BeetstraTC 21:41, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Secrets of Droon
Please, why, exactly, was the link removed? Is Wikia not based off of Wikipedia? Ralnon (talk) 15:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
WP:ELNO #12 (as it says in the warning on the talkpage. I would not use Wikipedia as an external link, and certainly not as a reference, so why use less stable wikis. --Dirk BeetstraTC