Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Active NFL head coach career Super Bowl history
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The result was delete. How this article compared to other articles does not matter. What does matter is there is a consensus that this article does not meet our guidelines. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:07, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Active NFL head coach career Super Bowl history
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Appears to be trivial
]- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Eagles 24/7 (C) 14:11, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 14:55, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete nice research and content, but I believe it will be better suited for a sports almanac. Try another wiki.--Paul McDonald (talk) 20:58, 27 April 2020 (UTC)]
- Keep, Eagles247 claims that the list is Listcruft. According to Listcruft definition, "In general, a "List of X" stand-alone list article should only be created if X itself is a legitimate encyclopedic topic that already has its own article. The list should originate as a section within that article, and should not be broken out into a separate article until it becomes so long as to be disproportionate to the rest of the article." So this list can, in theory, be a sub section in the list of super bowl head coaches article, but because it would be to long and disproportionate, it warrants its own article. What is the entire purpose of playing in the NFL? Winning the Super Bowl. It is important for people to be able to tell what coaches have accomplished what. It's not trivial information. How many Super Bowls a coach has won is a measuring stick for a lot of people of their success in the NFL. Zdawg1029 (talk) 23:11, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Comment to me the argument breaking out a list from an article that is too long is worthwhile consideration, but for me it doesn't overcome that this is more granular detail for such a list than is warranted for an encyclopedia. It's a good point.--Paul McDonald (talk) 12:58, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete I agree that its listcruft. A redirect to List of Super Bowl head coaches would be preferable to keeping though. I fail to see why this deserves its own article. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 02:17, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete too trivial and not needed on the site. Jcoolbro (talk) (c) 17:01, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Comment You people are out of your minds. Too trivial? How about this:
- List of Super Bowl Records This is literally a page of stats, no content other than stats, hardy a place for encyclopedia material. ALL it is is a list of stats. How is this any better than the list of coaches? Very trivial information.
- List of Super Bowl Officials In this useless article solely about what officials officiated a Super Bowl, there is a sub-section of what officials have done the most games. Sort of like the coach page where it says what active coaches have the most games. Other than that, this is a useless article that is nothing more than a LIST of officials that have done Super Bowls. Why is this even a page? Why is the page that just has all the current officials good enough? Now we have to point out which ones did Super Bowls? Who cares, they are only officials.
- List of Super Bowl starting QB's Yet another article that is pretty much nothing more than a LIST! All of the information on this page is available on the teams own page, the games page, as well as others, so now we have to have a page dedicated to who started at QB for a game?
- I can go on and on and on about other pages I see on Wikipedia that are similar to this. Whether you like the content of the coach page or not, it is worth keeping. Will you sleep better at night if this page is taken down? Does it effect your life in any way? And how is it hurting Wikipedia to be up here? It has been up for 7 years with no problems, and now you want to take it down? Why? Because you all think its too trivial? Yet you don't think other LISTS are too trivial? That is just playing Wiki God.Zdawg1029 (talk) 01:48, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Someone please explain to me how it falls under the category of listcruft. Zdawg1029 (talk) 20:11, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Not needed and really trivia. Kante4 (talk) 19:09, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment (for now, as I'm not familiar/experienced enough with the criteria to make an effective policy-based !vote) As I mentioned a year ago at Talk:Active NFL head coach career Super Bowl history#Edits to table format (and attempted to fix, but was reverted), the article content was not actually what the title suggests. I haven't dug into it deeply enough to see the current status of the issues I mentioned, other than I see the coach names are still not in the first column and still not in surname order. Nobody other than Zdawg1029 and myself ever commented further to break the deadlock. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 19:21, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, For the love of Pete, look at other articles in the Super Bowl list category. I mean List of Super Bowl commercials !! Who cares? What importance is it to know what commercials ran for the last 50 years..... And Super Bowl counterprogramming, is it vital to know what obscure shows ran against the Super Bowls? This article is more informative as far as Super Bowl info goes. But, if you are to be consistent, at least nominate the others for deletion. Those articles are just useless information. At least this article gives good info about current coaches. Just my 2 cents worth. Thanks Spparky (talk) 01:40, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete per EditoroftheWiki: List of Super Bowl head coaches is a thing that exists and that article is much better than this one. Swordman97 talk to me 05:56, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, Wikipedia is not a sports almanac. Stifle (talk) 16:03, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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