Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albania–Kiribati relations

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 02:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Albania–Kiribati relations

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No evidence of any

Fram (talk) 10:45, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply

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- Delete Agree that these pages seem to be generic listings that simply state relations exist and there is no individual notability to each. Would be better kept under an list page of "Albania diplomatic relations" or similar. Will also note these would be a good candidate for
  WP:MULTIAFD given their similarity/desire to avoid causing clutter on AfD.Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 11:39, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply
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  @Anonrfjwhuikdzz You that agree to delete this article, why don't you improve the article yourself so the article could be kept and inform the English Wiki visitors regarding the relations of these 2 countries? Instead of moving this page to Foreign relations of Albania, I think is better to have a separate article. Thanks GeniVekaGV (talk) 13:19, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge and redirect to Foreign relations of Albania. There are references but this and the other articles are currently too short to stand on their own. Can always recreate them later when more information comes to light. Andykatib 20:08, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  @Andykatib Why to delete the articles instead of keeping them? You may keep them and later, when more information can be added regarding new relations between these countries, it is reflected on the article. There are also short articles on English Wiki. Please keep these articles. Thanks GeniVekaGV (talk) 02:20, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  
  Please don't suggest "merge" and claim "there are references" when they are this terrible.
  "Bilateral Relations"[1] is a commercial webscraper of no value, and doesn't support the claim it should reference
  
  "Kiribati-European Union High Level Political Dialogue"[2] doesn't even mention Albania (which isn't an EU member)
  
  Which leaves us with the utterly negligible trade between the countries[3]. Trivia which isn't worth mentioning.
  Fram (talk) 07:49, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply
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  Fram I have corrected the political relations of Kiribati too. Thanks GeniVekaGV (talk) 19:53, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply
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  @GeniVekaGV Those two sources merely say that Albania and Kiribati are signatories of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and are OECD aid recipients. They do not describe bilateral relations between the two countries. I don't see how this would change the outcome. It's akin to arguing the Earth is flat. Andykatib (talk) 21:26, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  @Andykatib They describe the political relations between them and the organizations where they belong. The content and the references are well mentioned so the article is fine. I didn't found another sources regarding these relations. The content and the references should be kept. Thanks GeniVekaGV (talk) 21:30, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  Fram Now that the articles were improved can you remove the deletion template and keep them please? Thanks GeniVekaGV (talk) 06:30, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply
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  Both having signed the same treaty [4] or being a member of the same organisation[5][6] is not a "relation" between the two countries. Such references make your case only weaker.
  Fram (talk) 07:52, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply
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  Have to agree with @
  Fram. There is not a very strong case for this and the other Albania-Pacific relations articles. We can't remove the deletion tag until the process is complete. Andykatib (talk) 08:05, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply
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Delete no meaningful relations, the relations is almost exclusively in a multilateral context. No significant trade, state visits or embassies. The
WP:BLUDGEON on this page needs to stop. LibStar (talk) 06:46, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply
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Delete per
WP:NOPAGE. Geschichte (talk) 10:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.