Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Babel II (short story)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 09:42, 2 May 2023 (UTC)]
Babel II (short story)
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Contested redirect without improvement - While I love Knight (I have 8 of his novels in my library), there is not enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to pass WP:GNG. All the coverage is simply about its publication history. Searches did not turn up enough to show it passes
WP:GNG. The Michael Ashley source is nice brief piece on it, but even that is not that in-depth. Onel5969 TT me 09:39, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Literature. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:05, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. The story appears to have been reprinted quite a bit. And in addition to the Michael Ashley source the story has its own detailed entry in The Encyclopedia of Fictional and Fantastic Languages. But beyond that I'm not seeing many more citations about the story, so I won't get too worked up if it's deleted.--SouthernNights (talk) 18:22, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Archived in at Syracuse university library, thus meets BKCRIT #5,
The book's author is so historically significant that any of the author's written works may be considered notable. This does not simply mean that the book's author is notable by Wikipedia's standards; rather, the book's author is of exceptional significance and the author's life and body of written work would be a common subject of academic study.
Jclemens (talk) 18:51, 25 April 2023 (UTC)- Hi. I thought about that, the issue is, this isn't a book. But a short story. Not sure that applies. As I said, I'm a fan. Not only do I have his novels, I looked this morning, and I actually have my paperback copy of The Worlds of Science Fiction, in which this story appears. I also thought I had Far Out, but I can't find it. I think one of my children absconded with it. Onel5969 TT me 21:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, no one writes notability criteria specifically for short stories, but my reasoning is that if any book criteria congruently and sensibly apply to a sub-book unit, like a short story, we should use them. And it does say "written works" which is more expansive than books, so there's that, too. Jclemens (talk) 04:01, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. I thought about that, the issue is, this isn't a book. But a short story. Not sure that applies. As I said, I'm a fan. Not only do I have his novels, I looked this morning, and I actually have my paperback copy of The Worlds of Science Fiction, in which this story appears. I also thought I had Far Out, but I can't find it. I think one of my children absconded with it. Onel5969 TT me 21:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep I added a couple of references. If this short-story by a prolific author is one of a handful mentioned in a relatively short foreign non-English obituary, I'd think it's significant. Nfitz (talk) 23:20, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: SOURCESMUSTEXIST, ILIKEIT. @Onel5969: how could you? ;) (but thanks for the memory). // Timothy :: talk 15:41, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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