Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cameron Marshall

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The result was delete. Sandstein 15:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cameron Marshall

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this bio doesn't meet any notability guideline. From this bio, it seems, that the highest part of his career was when he once did a movie with a woman and this is clearly not enough to be considered notable to me. AlejandroLeloirRey (talk) 08:40, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions.CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 10:48, 25 April 2020 (UTC) [reply]

Keep - Per
WP:ANYBIO a subject may be notable if they have won an important award of which subject of article seems to have won one of such & also being nominated for a couple of such. Celestina007 (talk) 14:53, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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- @Celestina007: The deprecation of PORNBIO means that adult industry awards no longer count towards notability; pornographic actors need to pass WP:GNG or WP:ENT. Cheers, gnu 57 16:27, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ANYBIO & not WP:PORNBIO. Feel free to point out where you think I referenced WP:PORNBIO in any which way in my rationale provided above. Cheers.Celestina007 (talk) 17:46, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply

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@Celestina007: When PORNBIO was in force, it was used to specify which adult industry awards counted as "well-known and significant" for the purpose of ANYBIO. Now that PORNBIO is gone, adult industry awards are generally not considered "well-known and significant". (There are tons of different promotional porn awards and nominations given out every year, often to people who are complete no-names/have no RS coverage whatsoever.) Over the past year or so, many "won a porn award but the sources are garbage" articles have been deleted at AfD: please see the list maintained by WikiProject Pornography. Cheers, gnu 57 19:14, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ANYBIO which although isn’t an SNG does say if anyone, emphasis on the “anyone” has received a notable award they might be considered notable. I also understand that ANYBIO states that having such award doesn’t translate to auto notability. But in my opinion subject of our discussion “has a good case” here. It is our duty as colleagues to argue via policies (which is why I appreciate this dialogue between you and I) & finally reach a consensus but my rationale for now is in favor of our subject of discussion.Celestina007 (talk) 19:31, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply

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@Celestina007: Hi, when I read on ANYBIO a "notable prize" I translate it into a gold medal at the olympic games, a nobel Prize or a Pulizer Prize. The subject here can only count on that single prize to state its notability. Gayvn award is a pretty important prize in the porn industry but not so much important to make it self a person notable. If we had other things to sustain notability then it would be different but this is not the case.AlejandroLeloirRey (talk) 08:38, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Celestina007: Notable prizes need independent reliable sources that attest to their significance. These are lacking for porn industry awards as well as most mainstream commercial industry awards. Porn awards cannot support ANYBIO for the exact same reason they could not sustain PORNBIO. Winning a porn industry award is not a good predictor of RS interest, current or eventual. In this case, neither of the award wins would have passed the "well-known and significant" test in the later interpretations of PORNBIO. • Gene93k (talk) 13:30, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Of the current references, #1 (Metro Weekly) is an interview of someone else which includes a passing mention of Mr. Marshall. #2 (AVN) is an obvious press release full of over-the-top quotes from various people praising him. #3 (AVN) is an announcement of his "straight-for-pay" pornographic film. #4 (Fleshbot, NSFW) is an unreliable porn blog. #5 and #8 (JustUsBoys, NSFW) is a profile on a porn site. #6 (Jason's News Desk, NSFW) is an advertisement on a porn blog. #7 (PrideSource) is an interview in question-answer format. #9 (J.C. Adams/Gay Porn Times) is a film review on a porn blog with only one sentence about Mr. Marshall. #10 is an award roster. I looked for new sources and found only a Metro Weekly article promoting his appearance at a nightclub[1], a Queerty gossip entry about a youtube video of him singing[2], and a mention in an Cromosoma X (Spanish-language LGBT site) listicle [3]. Cheers, gnu 57 00:18, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a non-notable pornographic performer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:01, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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