Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chief Pat

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The result was delete. Sandstein 21:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chief Pat

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Fails GNG. Out of the 10 sources ,three (1, 6, 10) are social media, two (4, 8) are passing mentions, three (2, 7, 9) are eSports specialising sites, which I think are non-RS. Out of the other two, one (5) is a Forbes "contributers" blog (see the listing one below

Delete fails

WP:GNG.ScottHastie (talk) 08:20, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply

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• Delete per the nominator's showing of how none of the sources are the indepdent, 3rd party reliable sources we need to pass GNG, let alone multiple such sources as we would need to show that the article subject is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:17, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep: Barely found anything about him when I did a research. Out of the 10 references in the article, I believe reference #2, #3 and #9 are reliable. The article is good enough to pass
  WP:SNG with those sources. But, I'll give it a very, very weak keep. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 02:35, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  Which SNG exactly? There is no eSports SNG currently (there is a thread about this at

  WP:ENT has three criteria which I don't think this YouTuber meets and this SNG also doesn't override GNG. TryKid ^{[dubious – discuss]} 07:58, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply

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• Delete any Supercell game youtube watcher knows about him, and the youtube sources and the Forbes news justify that. But he's not notable for anything else, and BTW I've removed the non-RS and we can see how bad it makes the article in sourcing, certainly fails the GNG. Given the amount of coverage (low) and the assortment of non-notable events, it's a delete. Eumat114 (Message) 12:38, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Known quantity as a YouTuber with enough sources & numbers to justify. Esports-related articles are consistently sparse on RS as well (Andy Dinh, Nadeshot etc.). Added a new source for $1M financing round he raised for his company in March 2020 inc. traditional sports stars, IMO this is where this page will grow and where he will be broadly become even more notable - keep. (Message) 6:21, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

  eSports and RS is being discussed at here). The new source you added is just a press release. Also, Wikipedia only requires sources, not "numbers" and if there really are RS sources on the subject, please add them. TryKid ^{[dubious – discuss]} 07:58, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Chief Pat has 2.5M subs, which places him on the 5880th in subscriber count. If he had 250mil subs then he would likely receive the coverage needed for Wikipedia; right now, he's not notable enough for his YT-related activities. Eumat114 (Message) 13:20, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: I've looked at the nominator's summary of the flawed sources, and they're right. First, sources need to be independent, but they also need to be reliable. That eliminates nearly all the sources except two, which are
  WP:GNG is for. The fact that this is a problem with lots of esports articles is a strike against it, not for it. Shooterwalker (talk) 13:55, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete - per nom and others. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 00:23, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom and others. I ran "Patrick Carney", his legal name, +gaming through a search and only got one independent hit in a sports media industry site. It was a one-on-one interview which pretty much repeated what he told their reporter. The subject lacks in-depth independent coverage. Furthermore, the page creating editor (who did disclose
  WP:SPA whose contributions solely relate to this subject.Blue Riband► 15:18, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
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