Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Chiacchio

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The result was delete. --BDD (talk) 23:16, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Chiacchio

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This is a classic example of how to whip up what appears to be a substantial article for a local politician that does absolutely nothing to establish notability. The coverage is all trivial election details, local political intrigues and statistical details from hometown newspapers and governmental websites. Some of the material here could be added to the article for Moorestown. Alansohn (talk) 21:04, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per lack of substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:01, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:32, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep I think the article should be kept. It has useful information about the Deputy Mayor of a town, all citations are from actual news outlets and not from opinion or political sites, and it offers useful educational information about a local public figure.DilbertReality (talk) 22:32, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong delete. Zero significant coverage except in something called the Moorestown Patch. The New York Times it ain't. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:32, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep Obviously, as the individual who created the page, I am a strong believer that it should be kept. First, to address some of the above, I thought it would be extremely useful for the members of our Town Council to have pages that people can learn more about their local government from. I therefore spent time searching for articles and information about our local officials. In response to Clarityfiend, The Moorestown Patch is a hyper-local news source, but it is a legitimate media company with full-time editors and reporters (See Patch Media to learn more about the Patch Media corporation). I thought Wikipedia existed so that individuals could use it as a resource to learn - and I wanted folks in Moorestown and other towns to be able to learn more information on their elected officials, including the Deputy Mayor (who will likely be Mayor in rotation soon). RedAlertMoorestown(talk) 14:48, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep This page offers information in one location about a good portion of both Chris Chiacchio's life and political history. It certainly offers more than most New Jersey legislator pages, and offers more than you find in the pages for some larger city Deputy Mayors! I would, however, argue that the page can be made stronger by including more information about the work he has done during his time on Township Council. Rather than delete the page, I recommend that work be done to make it a better page. Either way, it should certainly be kept as he is a public figure and the entry already does have quite a bit about him, his background, and his political life. And yes, the Patch is a legitimate news source. MoorestownGOP (talk) 15:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)— MoorestownGOP (talk[reply]
• Keep Contains proper citations, he has been covered in numerous articles, and is an elected official. I believe this is useful to keep for the mission of Wikipedia. I do agree that it could be made stronger in certain ways, but to say that this page is covered somebody with "no notoriety" is inaccurate. My vote is to keep but improve where possible. TravisWoods (talk) 16:39, 11 July 2013 (UTC)— TravisWoods (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
• Delete citations have to be for something significant. Otherwise, they amount to just PR. An elaborate article for deputy mayor of a small municipality (population 20,000) is essentially either promotionalism or a misunderstood idea of what an encyclopedia is for. "Elected official" is a very loose terms, if applied to this position. I have sometime been asked, why I tend to be deletionist for local people and events, and it's exactly because accepting a position like this as notable is a free pass for this sort of promotionalism or local boosterism. DGG ( talk ) 23:50, 12 July 2013 (UTC) .[reply]
• Delete per nom. and DGG.--Rollins83 (talk) 23:31, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I believe that TravisWoods and DilbertReality are spot on. I believe that the elitist view that a local politician is not notable is by no means grounds for deletion. My vote is to keep but make the page better. RMadden2 ( talk ) 10:24, 15 July 2013 (UTC)— RMadden2 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
• Delete. I'm sorry to those of you who believe that the deputy mayor of a town of 20k is notable, but Wikipedia has notability guidelines. In this case the applicable guideline can be found at
  WP:POLITICIAN. Please note #2 "Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage." This person is neither major, nor has the press coverage been significant, (i.e. "has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists.") -Wine Guy~Talk 00:27, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply
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• Strong Keep After reviewing the notability guidelines, I believe that the Deputy Mayor does in fact meet the criteria for notability as someone who has received press coverage from Patch Media, the South Jersey Sun, South Jersey Magazine, SJ Magazine, and the Burlington County Times. Being named a top lawyer for his region, elected to local government, and serving as Deputy Mayor under the first female Mayor of a town absolutely makes him notable, and the article should be left alone. -- ChoirVoice(talk) 12:00, 16 July 2013 (UTC)— ChoirVoice (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]