Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Salvi
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. MBisanz talk 01:02, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
Chris Salvi
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Contested PROD. Doesn't meet
WP:NGRIDIRON. Part of a group of promotional articles on Salvi family members. Article seems to have been authored by the subject or someone connected to them, since most of the information in the article isn't available in published sources. Blythwood (talk) 20:03, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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- Also found some Italian language sources [7] [8]. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 18:20, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:57, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:57, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Only references in reliable sources are for essentially being a walk-on to Notre Dame. Everything else is ]
- Receiving a scholarship after being a walk-on is not necessarily routine. From NCAA.com, "Players like Hayes and Nassib (both walk-ons), who get scholarships, are the exceptions. Though the NCAA compiles no specific data on walk-ons, experts believe the vast majority quit after a short time." WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 18:11, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
- Just seems that you're hearing about 10 or so players a year earning scholarships. Heck, WMU's football coach thinks up inventive ways to award the scholarships to get onto ESPN. Regardless of "routine" or not, I still contend that "getting a scholarship as a walk-on" is his ]
- Our discussion is not about "10 or so players a year" but about this particular player. ESPN alone is providing coverage in September 2011 and May of 2013, with additional coverage from NYT in early 2013 and USA Today in the March 2012 off-season. This is not "one event" by any stretch.--Paul McDonald (talk) 03:37, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
- Just seems that you're hearing about 10 or so players a year earning scholarships. Heck, WMU's football coach thinks up inventive ways to award the scholarships to get onto ESPN. Regardless of "routine" or not, I still contend that "getting a scholarship as a walk-on" is his ]
- Receiving a scholarship after being a walk-on is not necessarily routine. From NCAA.com, "Players like Hayes and Nassib (both walk-ons), who get scholarships, are the exceptions. Though the NCAA compiles no specific data on walk-ons, experts believe the vast majority quit after a short time." WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 18:11, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
- Conditions of WP:BLP1E:
- 1) If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event. – Getting a walkon scholarship is his single event. Everything else is ROUTINE based on being a player for a BCS school. Even if the coverage was over 9 months.
- 2) If that person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual. – He is likely not to be notable for anything else.
- 3) If the event is not significant – Getting a walkon scholarship is not a significant event. — X96lee15 (talk) 12:50, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Check your math--September 2011 to May 2014 is 21 months, not 9. Plus, more sources have been added.--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:43, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Further comment--if the coverage in the New York Times, USA Today, and ESPN are simply "routine" then it should be no problem to provide thousands upon thousands of examples of other similar feature articles about similar events. Until then, I will maintain that it is WP:NOTROUTINE as I have asserted below.--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:46, 25 October 2016 (UTC)]
- Conditions of WP:BLP1E:
- Keep the feature articles above from the New York Times, USA Today, and ESPN are more than enough to surpass WP:NOTROUTINE.--Paul McDonald (talk) 12:03, 21 October 2016 (UTC)]
- Comment Just for the record, the article has now been significantly expanded since it was nominated for deletion [13]. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 23:39, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:31, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:31, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep; article is well sourced to reliable sources, and as ]
- Delete every single source listed all involves his walk-on Notre Dame career, while inspiring, it is a textbook WP:BLP1E. No accomplishments in college, not even regular playing time during his career there. No other sources regarding anything else about this guy. Prevan (talk) 15:28, 27 October 2016 (UTC)]
- Not every source listed talks about him specifically being a walk-on and earning a scholarship. [14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23]. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 15:42, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Plus, it's too broad of a time frame for simply "one event" -- and the rest of the argument about it being just a walk-on career is irrelevant. He could be the tiddlywinks champion but if the coverage passess WP:GNG it's in.--Paul McDonald (talk) 03:50, 28 October 2016 (UTC)]
- Keep - enough coverage to meet GNG. Since not all the coverage is about his being a walkon, BLP1E is not applicable. Rlendog (talk) 16:00, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Araton, Harvey (January 6, 2013) and Galletti, Livia (September 28, 2015) seem to be in depth reliable coverage about the individual. Smmurphy(Talk) 20:01, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
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