Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colin Pine

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Merge to Yao Ming. Deathphoenix ʕ 16:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Colin Pine

Non-notable: he's a basketball player's interpreter. Certainly, the basketball player in question is quite notable, but Colin Pine hasn't really done anything noteworthy himself. mgekelly 09:55, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete or merge any worthwhile content (I can't see any) into Yao Ming. —Whouk (talk) 10:22, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• I suggest merge rather than delete. ~~ Brother William 13:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep He's a big part of the persona of Yao Ming. He's a co-star of the movie about Yao Ming's rookie year. He is a lot more important than say, one of Bertrand Russell's mistresses, which, yes, wikipedia does have an article on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.59.85.25 (talk • contribs)
• Keep, because of his role in The Year of the Yao, and significant associated coverage (e.g. see Google references). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anirvan (talk • contribs)
• Merge If the person has no notability at all aside from being related to another person, then he should just be mentioned in the latter person's article. -- Kicking222 18:28, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge a small amount (two sentences or so) into Yao Ming. Mr. Pine's notability comes only from association with YM and from the documentary about YM. The redirect resulting from the merge is sufficient to handle anyone searching on Pine's own name. Barno 18:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge or exapand, if the only verifiable fact is that he is Yao's interpreter then there is no need for a second page. If there exists enough information for this page to be expanded, then I say keep it. DanielZimmerman 22:57, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge into Yao Ming, no notability on his own. --Eivind^t@c 23:17, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• He gained his fame through his association with Yao, but now he is a well-known face. You can't easily merge this information anyways. Take a look at the following articles for comparison:
  John_Conrad_Russell,_4th_Earl_Russell, Alys_Pearsall_Smith. Wikipedia is full of such short biographies. In terms of fame, Colin Pine is way above any of the people I just mentioned. I think you all should take that into consideration, especially if you're not a basketball fan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.112.185.129 (talk • contribs
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  • I'm not sure what your comparison with the Russells is attempting to prove. The Earl Russell's notability comes from his having been a parliamentarian. The length of the article doesn't come into it (and there being other subjects that potentially don't justify their articles has no relevance to whether this one does). —Whouk (talk) 08:48, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's pretty clear the article will survive deletion. Let's change this to a "it has been suggested that

Update--discussion started, please look at the current state of the article and discuss why or why not it should be merged Talk:Colin Pine--DownUnder555 19:00, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.